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Lucifer is the Mother of Adam

herushura

Active Member
What if Angle and Angle are the Same?

Angle in Astrology can refer to the movements of stars , Ascendant, mid-heaven, descendant, imum coeli.

The Ancient believed that these movement(angles) creates Messages
thus they are called messengers(angels).

messages = time of harvest / festival times / Winter Solstice(birth of SonSun)

No Wonder Angels are in Heaven (literally)
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
What if Angle and Angle are the Same?

Angle in Astrology can refer to the movements of stars , Ascendant, mid-heaven, descendant, imum coeli.

The Ancient believed that these movement(angles) creates Messages
thus they are called messengers(angels).

The Ancients also had a horse's arse, which is the source of all poop.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Furthermore, milk comes from cows, which the Ancients thought meows, so we don't eat cats.
 

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
English Words hmm but are they English in origin. The true Language Native to England is the Celtic Language which i call Lloegrish


uh yeah....

wrong mister...

the celts came far later...

:sarcastic

The spread of iron-working led to the development of the Hallstatt culture directly from the Urnfield (c. 700 to 500 BC). Proto-Celtic, the latest common ancestor of all known Celtic languages, is considered by this school of thought to have been spoken at the time of the late Urnfield or early Hallstatt cultures, in the early first millennium BC. The spread of the Celtic languages to Iberia, Ireland and Britain would have occurred during the first half of the 1st millennium BC, the earliest chariot burials in Britain dating to ca. 500 BC. Over the centuries they developed into the separate Celtiberian, Goidelic and Brythonic languages.

But, in his 2006 book The Origins of the British, revised in 2007, he argued that neither Anglo-Saxons nor Celts had much impact on the genetics of the inhabitants of the British Isles, and that British ancestry mainly traces back to the Palaeolithic Iberian people, now represented by Basques, instead. More recently, it has been noted [7] that the distribution of the gene for lactase persistence apparently originating near the Baltic Sea between 4,800 and 6,000 B.P. indicates a spread from there to both the British Isles and to Iberia later than the original paleolithic population spread.

Celts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prehistoric Britain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Its a name of a Germanic Tribe

theorys suggests it from Latin "Angulus" meaning "Angel" which would coincide with "Narrow".

Latin word for Angel is "Angelus" The Timing of the tribe of Angles is timed well with Christian beliefs of Angelic Beings
Even though the Germanic word 'eng' ("tight") is older than the Latin influence in that area?
 

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
What if Angle and Angle are the Same?

Angle in Astrology can refer to the movements of stars , Ascendant, mid-heaven, descendant, imum coeli.

The Ancient believed that these movement(angles) creates Messages
thus they are called messengers(angels).

messages = time of harvest / festival times / Winter Solstice(birth of SonSun)

No Wonder Angels are in Heaven (literally)

oh boy

The word angel in English is a fusion of the Old English word engel (with a hard g) and the Old French angele. Both derive from the Latin angelus, and thence the Koine Greek ἄγγελος - angelos ('messenger') used in the Septuagint to translate the Hebrew mal'akh (yehowah) "messenger (of Yahweh)".[1][2]

:facepalm:

:shout Prayer for the day: Please Obama, reform education
 

herushura

Active Member
oh boy

The word angel in English is a fusion of the Old English word engel (with a hard g) and the Old French angele. Both derive from the Latin angelus, and thence the Koine Greek ἄγγελος - angelos ('messenger') used in the Septuagint to translate the Hebrew mal'akh (yehowah) "messenger (of Yahweh)".[1][2]

:facepalm:

:shout Prayer for the day: Please Obama, reform education

Why do Christians jump subjects when Astrology and its religious Parallelism come into Play.
Christian cannot justify that fact that the story of Jesus is mirrored in the Heavens.

Stars Don't Lie?
 
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Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
Revelations 12:1
And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun.

Lucifer means "I bear Light" | Above is the Woman Clothing the Sun, thus it is her Duty to Bear the Light.
this is paralleled to bear Life which is why Son and Sun are pronounced the same.

Luci-FER -think Fertility/to bear

fertile
1436, from L. fertilis "bearing in abundance, fruitful, productive," from ferre "to bear" (see infer)

Lucifer
O.E. Lucifer "Satan," also "morning star," from L. Lucifer "morning star," lit. "light-bringing," from lux (gen. lucis) + ferre "carry"

Females Bear LIFe - look closely at the F / V / th sounds.

moTher , Eve, Love, earTH. heaVen, aTHena, Fruit(Fer'oot).

Originally the Female Goddess were worshipped as being the Creator of Man and the universe - but monotheisms they swapped the goddess roles with a male-god , which became MANotheism - MAN have taken over her religion, and corrupted it.

Monotheism has turned mother nature eVil - deaTH - turned her into the deViL-

The Original first man "Atum" was created by Nun the Fertility Goddess - She is also the mother of Amen - "a MAN"
and the mother of RA and yahWAh - she is also the mother of "Ye-Shua"

Other Egyptian names for Nun are Nut, Mut Geb, Neith and Hathor-Isis.
Nun > Mun > Mum

The name Noah is a variant of NU; the original Noah was Female. Noah's ark was really NU's Womb, the Womb of Creation. Numbers 26:33

Lucifer is also Mary the Virgin
Lucifer's number is 666 / 6th House = Virgo |+6 = Pisces |+6 = Virgo.

Mary > from "Meri-Hathor" meaning the "The mothers "House(womb) of Horus" This House is Virgo - Virgo also means "House of Bread" - In Hebrew is "Bethlehem"

Mar or Mer from African roots means Mother, Water or Love, reflected in these words : Marry, Merge, Mermaid, Marine.

Mar is also the prototype for many Mothers of the Sun including Maia mother of Buddha,Krishna,Hermes,Sakai,Yasoda - Maya mother of Agnu - Myrrha mother of adonis and Bacchus and Mayence mother of Hesus.

An interesting concept, but the character of lucifer wasn't perverted into a devil until years after the bible was compiled. Lucifer's a rather recent character, and has nothing to do with adam what so ever.
 

herushura

Active Member
An interesting concept, but the character of lucifer wasn't perverted into a devil until years after the bible was compiled. Lucifer's a rather recent character, and has nothing to do with adam what so ever.

Well what I realized is though Lucifer is today's standard "Masculine" - But before the Bible, Lucifer was more "Feminine" I point this out in the Suffix of "Fer" means to "To Bear" that relates to a female "Bearing a Child" and is the origin for Fertile.

"To bear Light" in many contexts was paralleled with "To bear Life", Males cannot Bear Life its the role of a Women.

Woman Bears Life
Woman Bears Light

It Illogical to think that the Sun has a Mother - But the Ancient created this Parallel.
The Mother > The Earth
The Father > The Sky
The Son > The Sun
The Horizon > The Uterus

The Sun Pops out the Earth > The Son Pops out the Mother

That how they paralleled it.
Really Simple Stuff to Know

Adam was created from God from the Earth > The Son was Created by a Male by fertilizing a Women
 
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Actually Lucipher or Lucifer was an asexual non-gendered name for Satan, which in fact is translated in Hebrew to mean "The Accuser". I agree that the worship of the female aspect of religions has been "demonized" by the Christian religions. Also the serpent in the Bible who tempted Eve to eat the fruit of the tree, was Lillith, also known as the first wife of Adam. The above stated names for Adam such as Atum or Ahten was an ancient Egyption word for the sun. Proof comes from The believed father of King Tutankamen, Akhenaten, whose name was nearly erased from history due to his "heretical" views of sun worship. On a side note I would like to know if anyone here has considered the possibility of Volcano worship by the ancient Judeaists such as Moses. Read "Exodus" and you will find that his encounter with "God"on Mount Horeb resembles a worship of Volcanoes. Also that in my research I have come to the theory that even the Ancient Egyptians in the Pyramidic Kingdoms were actually Volcano worshipers as well. I mean look at the shape of a pyramid and think of how religion and the belief in Gods came from a basic need to explain geological and natural events such as the massive eruption of the volcano "Thera" in 1628 b.c. which has been found to show effects in parts of the world such as here in America. Such an eruption surely would have spurned the ancients to some sort of volcano worship such as the Aztecs, Mayans, and Incans clearly had themselves. Just a theory but a sound one. Any feedback on this subject would be greatly appreciated as it would help my research by exploring other avenues I may have missed.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Well what I realized is though Lucifer is today's standard "Masculine" - But before the Bible, Lucifer was more "Feminine" I point this out in the Suffix of "Fer" means to "To Bear" that relates to a female "Bearing a Child" and is the origin for Fertile.

Actually, 'fer' is the masculine, 'fera' is the feminine.
Literal meaning is "that which bears", as in aquafer, or that which bears water; conifer, or that which bears cones.
It is a Latin word, as is Lucifer, meaning "light bearer"
Lucifer is not found in the OT, it is used as a name for satan in reference to Isaiah 14:3-20 in which the 'fallen angel' is named as the "Day Star" or "Morning Star".
In 2 Peter 1:19 and elsewhere, lucifer is used in reference to the morning star with no relation to the devil.
 
At least the Ancients and there Angel/Angles gave use Easter/Christmas/Halloween

no...about Halloween you are dead wrong. Time to study what you write about. Halloween is an ancient Celtic/Pagan holiday to give the dead a way through the darkness by putting a light out for them to see so as not to be taken by Samael, The Pagan god of Darkness. The folllowing day is the "Feast of All Saints", the day before Nov. 2nd which is "The Day of The Dead". People dressed in scary outfits to try to disrupt and frighten away the spirits of Samael, who would take away their loved ones on "All Hallows Eve". Research my friend...research
 

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
Actually Lucipher or Lucifer was an asexual non-gendered name for Satan, which in fact is translated in Hebrew to mean "The Accuser". .

bzzzt

nope lucifer didnt "become" satan until the 10th century or so

due to a christian monk's mistranslation


of course in occult and free masonary...lucifer has more meanings than simply a fallen angelic dude
he represents many things, mainly the fallen spirit in matter, similar to sophai ecamoth....

although lucifer is generally a bit sinister...

Members of the theosophist group were actually told by spirits that Jesus was a false messiah and that they should follow lucifer...

memebers such as annie besant, most noticably, then formed splinter groups...her group still exists...
its called "Luci's trust"...and it aint to do with a peanuts character.....

of course modern luciferians have a whole other take on lucifer, often identifying further with lucifer with sophia
seeing the edenic serpent as samael lillith, as is seen in conventional circles into a serpent being lucifer....

to conclude, there are many meanings and takes on the nature of lucifer


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