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[savethedreams]

Have you "seen demons"?

IDK, my friends have, or claim to. I have seen myself, ghost before, and have certain weird experiences....besides that NO. but do 'spirits'/ghost exist YES, im not crazy but when 'things are tap into' it never fails...why?

 

[doppelganger]

IDK, my friends have, or claim to. I have seen myself, ghost before, and have certain weird experiences....besides that NO. but do 'spirits'/ghost exist YES, im not crazy but when 'things are tap into' it never fails...why?

Perhaps because you are engaging in practices that are motivated by your desire to experience such things, which tends to lend itself to having trouble distinguishing what you actually experienced with your senses and what your imagination projected into those experiences.

 

[savethedreams]

Perhaps because you are engaging in practices that are motivated by your desire to experience such things, which tends to lend itself to having trouble distinguishing what you actually experienced with your senses and what your imagination projected into those experiences.

No the ghost was NOTHING i have done, the other was me buying some 'cards' and leaving them on the table going through my daily life as a kid and 'stuff' happened so as far as 'desire to experience' NO. lol

 

[doppelganger]

No the ghost was NOTHING i have done, the other was me buying some 'cards' and leaving them on the table going through my daily life as a kid and 'stuff' happened so as far as 'desire to experience' NO. lol

Well, for starters, calling something a "ghost" is absolutely something you've done. What did you see?

What happened with the cards?

Sometimes (all the time) we can't completely see what we actually desire. It takes a very clean mirror to get there.

 

[savethedreams]

Well, for starters, calling something a "ghost" is absolutely something you've done. What did you see?

What happened with the cards?

Sometimes (all the time) we can't completely see what we actually desire. It takes a very clean mirror to get there.

Things were moving in my house every morning , then i go to my friends house and same thing happen to him EXACTLY, and the third, fourth, fifth . Moved the same way, with the same voice, the same move. It was skeptical at first but naw it not coincidence. ...

Have u ever delt with spirit meduims before?

 

[doppelganger]

Things were moving in my house every morning , then i go to my friends house and same thing happen to him EXACTLY, and the third, fourth, fifth . Moved the same way, with the same voice, the same move. It was skeptical at first but naw it not coincidence. ...

Have u ever delt with spirit meduims before?

What is moving, when and how? Describe what you saw in detail.

Since I consider psychologists to be "spirit" mediums (properly equipped ones, at that), yes, I have dealt with them before. I practice some Chaos magic and have more than a passing interest in psychology and mythology.

 

[savethedreams]

What is moving, when and how? Describe what you saw in detail.

Since I consider psychologists to be "spirit" mediums (properly equipped ones, at that), yes, I have dealt with them before. I practice some Chaos magic and have more than a passing interest in psychology and mythology.

What is Chaos Magic?

but have u don't black magic, and get really 'deep into' spiritsim?

I'm not sure how this can be psychological , its quick real. Trust me..

 

[savethedreams]

The mind.

What do you mean by 'the mind"????

 

[doppelganger]

What is Chaos Magic?

Why are you avoiding describing what you experienced?

 

[savethedreams]

Why are you avoiding describing what you experienced?

Its complicated to explain, hearing nosies, same voices door banging and 'people' walking around when the house is empty, "when i'm by myself" i was in 7th grade at this time, stuff moving. Very 'movie' like......

same thing happen to my friends..

when I got rid of the cards it stopped.... when i brought it back it happened. Not just for 1 person (because I was a kid and wanted them i tried to play like it wasn't it but statistics can't lie) but for some ofmy friends to.

 

[doppelganger]

Its complicated to explain, hearing nosies, same voices door banging and 'people' walking around when the house is empty, "when i'm by myself" i was in 7th grade at this time, stuff moving. Very 'movie' like......

Just describe it. If you saw or heard something, it isn't hard to explain.

 

[savethedreams]

Just describe it. If you saw or heard something, it isn't hard to explain.

i've said it, i've heard people walking around in my house. THIS INCIDENT i have not SEEn anything, except my cards being moved.


There was an incident when i was lil younger then that, and I saw a 8 foot ghostly like figure starting at me. I peed in my pants.

 

[doppelganger]

i've heard people walking around in my house.

What did you actually hear?

THIS INCIDENT i have not SEEn anything, except my cards being moved.

Describe specifically what happened.

There was an incident when i was lil younger then that, and I saw a 8 foot ghostly like figure starting at me. I peed in my pants.

Describe what you saw, when and where.

 

[savethedreams]

What did you actually hear?

Well i lived in an apt, we have carpet on the floor, and parts of it has that lil creek noise everytime someone walk over it you can hear. Its that 'sound' you hear when you know someone is home, simply even if they walk quietly. That is what I've heard. 'Someone' was walking around my house. IDK how i can describe it any further but nobody was home i assure you because at that time...well i WILL NOT get into a long sad story, but it was just me so there was NOBODY HOME.

Describe what you saw, when and where.

That incident which is another incident, I was sleep on the couch and across from my was the bathroom, and it was this tall figure 8 feet tall with eyes just like a human but giant. it was just standing there. There room was dark, because there was no light or windows etc, so idk where this huge beam of light from him was coming from and why he look like a tall man bigger then most suepr tall humans.

 

[doppelganger]

That incident which is another incident, I was sleep on the couch and across from my was the bathroom, and it was this tall figure 8 feet tall with eyes just like a human but giant. it was just standing there. There room was dark, because there was no light or windows etc, so idk where this huge beam of light from him was coming from and why he look like a tall man bigger then most suepr tall humans.

The highlighted part pretty well explains it.

What about the noises you say you heard?

 

[savethedreams]

The highlighted part pretty well explains it.

What about the noises you say you heard?

Well let me talk in another terms... I was laying on the couch, and i peed in my pants...yes when i woke up that morning mom was mad i peed on the couch. lol. I was not dreaming, because 1. i was sweating and I actually did urinate because while i was 'seeing' him, i put my hand down there and it was wet. because of physical things happening like be sweating and urinating and my hand being of urine i was fully awake. Trust me this isn't no dream or no lucid dream.



for the other incident... i said the noises already...the noise of someone walking around the house

 

[doppelganger]

Well let me talk in another terms... I was laying on the couch, and i peed in my pants...yes when i woke up that morning mom was mad i peed on the couch. lol. I was not dreaming, because 1. i was sweating and I actually did urinate because while i was 'seeing' him, i put my hand down there and it was wet.

The twilight period of consciousness going into and out of dreams and sleep can seem extremely real. But mundane experiences like the way light dances through a curtain become magnified and distorted by the altered consciousness of sleep. So while you interepreted a "ghost" in the state you were in, and had a strong enough experience to cause spontaneous urination, that is a common experience in the twilight periods of sleep where the borders between imagination and sensation fade.

for the other incident... i said the noises already...the noise of someone walking around the house

No you didn't. That's your interpretation of what you heard. You can't hear "the noise of someone walking" around the house. That's a visual experience. What did you actually hear?

 

[savethedreams]

The twilight period of consciousness going into and out of dreams and sleep can seem extremely real. But mundane experiences like the way light dances through a curtain become magnified and distorted by the altered consciousness of sleep. So while you interepreted a "ghost" in the state you were in, and had a strong enough experience to cause spontaneous urination, that is a common experience in the twilight periods of sleep where the borders between imagination and sensation fade.

We have no curtains, like i said there was no windows. i didin't live in no fantsy place. lol. yes a room with no windows and a huge light, and a man standing and i peed on my self because i was scared. never forget it.

No you didn't. That's your interpretation of what you heard. You can't hear "the noise of someone walking" around the house. That's a visual experience. What did you actually hear?

That what Im trying to explain i'm not sure if you ever had a creek in your floors, or lived in raggedy places where everytime you step in a certain spot it makes a loud noise. Put it this way, you ever heard someone walking VERY HARD almost stomping in hard wood floors? running up and down.....imagine hearing that when nobody is there, and no we lived in apt, so it wasn't the neighbors there was nobody who lived next door. You have to imagine the setting...... and my other friends at that time, heard same thing. I NEVER mention it to them, but my friend told me something happen to him, the same noise, and the same cards keep moving in diffrent spots throughout the house. I fall asleep with them right next to me, and they be on the kitchen counter, inside a draw, on top of the tv etc.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That incident which is another incident, I was sleep on the couch and across from my was the bathroom, and it was this tall figure 8 feet tall with eyes just like a human but giant. it was just standing there. There room was dark, because there was no light or windows etc, so idk where this huge beam of light from him was coming from and why he look like a tall man bigger then most suepr tall humans.

That is called sleep paralysis.
Sleep paralysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's very common, and the object beheld is largely determined by the self and society. Here in America people tend to see aliens, and in some Asian culture I think it is they see witches. On the scale of how terrifying the experience can be, it can be on the same level as night terrors.

 

[savethedreams]

The twilight period of consciousness going into and out of dreams and sleep can seem extremely real. But mundane experiences like the way light dances through a curtain become magnified and distorted by the altered consciousness of sleep. So while you interepreted a "ghost" in the state you were in, and had a strong enough experience to cause spontaneous urination, that is a common experience in the twilight periods of sleep where the borders between imagination and sensation fade.


No you didn't. That's your interpretation of what you heard. You can't hear "the noise of someone walking" around the house. That's a visual experience. What did you actually hear?

No pun intended, but that is one of the many problems I have with atheist, they are just like some 'christians' and religious freaks.... both ignore what they see, some stuff 'can't be explianed' are 'unknown'. There are spirits though, magic is REAL. When i DREAM at times, my dreams happen. I have predicted so many evidence in my life...

example... i dreamt of a light skinned boy living with me, and me loving him etc.....always had that dream.......i forogt about it...years later...it happened and i looked back in my journel i was like 'WOW' the exact same way he layed in my bed, and me saying exact same thing..


or when i meet this dude blind date, and he said something to be, and i was like whoa i dreamnt you would say that years ago. It hit me... yeah i de ja vu alot but im use to it now. lol

The bible stories may not be real, but there is 'unkown' stuff out there sciense can't touch yet.. just like an christian-muslim ignored contradictions in there holy books atheit can't ignore 'unkown'. Which is why i will never be atheist i'll be agnostic always with a belief in god, but not in the sense ppl put him in lol