Luciferism where he at yo

[savethedreams]

That is called sleep paralysis.
Sleep paralysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's very common, and the object beheld is largely determined by the self and society. Here in America people tend to see aliens, and in some Asian culture I think it is they see witches. On the scale of how terrifying the experience can be, it can be on the same level as night terrors.

yeah i remeber trying to find an excuse of everything that happened to me, i read about that and it didn't fit it 100% i think it was because i was moving, like trembling of fear.. in sleep paralysis i have had before and you can't move and your dreaming, yeah i've experienced that before. but you can't move around trembling and feeling 'yourself' with sleep paralysis.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Were you watching TV or playing video games before you fell asleep? Or imbibed something sugary or caffeinated?

 

[savethedreams]

Were you watching TV or playing video games before you fell asleep? Or imbibed something sugary or caffeinated?

NOPE, tell how old I am ... lord... at that time there were no video games liek that....AND I COULD NOT AFFORD them me or my family lol added to that we didn't have cable so no. sugar / caffeine I was to young mom and aunts didn't let me have sugar lol you can most def scratch those out,

I AM BEING VERY HONEST as well..........so B.s or over exaggeration just to make it clear and I have NO mental disoder people or you know no schizo stuff.

 

[Orias]

What do you mean by 'the mind"????

The Universe of the Mind.

The Mind in which we seek, observe, feel, spite, and convey is connected to all of comprehension and beyond. It's a rather facetious way of saying "we know everything, because we are everything", which seems to inherit the idea that we are not only part of the Universe, we are the Universe.

Light, in a sense, is a demiurge, sense our very own molecules consist of biophotons.

Lucifer is this.

 

[savethedreams]

The Universe of the Mind.

The Mind in which we seek, observe, feel, spite, and convey is connected to all of comprehension and beyond. It's a rather facetious way of saying "we know everything, because we are everything", which seems to inherit the idea that we are not only part of the Universe, we are the Universe.

Light, in a sense, is a demiurge, sense our very own molecules consist of biophotons.

Lucifer is this.

Isn't that pantheist, satnism and lucierism doens't seem to 'evil' at all. So what with the darkness? and the ideas seem GOOD to me, it not bad at all, from what i've heard the non-theist concepts.

 

[Orias]

Isn't that pantheist, satnism and lucierism doens't seem to 'evil' at all. So what with the darkness? and the ideas seem GOOD to me, it not bad at all, from what i've heard the non-theist concepts.

It is indeed a form a pantheism.

Pantheism is the fruit of my Satanic roots

I often find myself seeing strict LaVeyan's, which really bothers me when I read narrow minded posts that subject themselves to dogma.

As for darkness, I believe my signature can provide some help

I have a lot to offer if you are truly interested about the childeren of the night

 

[Erebus]

Isn't that pantheist, satnism and lucierism doens't seem to 'evil' at all. So what with the darkness? and the ideas seem GOOD to me, it not bad at all, from what i've heard the non-theist concepts.

While I agree with much of what Orias already said (I'm torn myself on strict LaVeyans, I've seen some who were incredibly intelligent and others who are simply *** holes) I'd like to expand upon the notion of darkness.
Much of the appeal in the LHP lies in it being somewhat forbidden. It naturally rebels against societal norms and uses imagery and symbolism that highlights this. Becoming comfortable with the dark imagery is simply one way to overcome societal taboos and to see the bigger picture. Satan, Lucifer, Darkness, Pentagrams... all of these are thought of as evil and frightening to the majority of people. By embracing these things, not only do we enjoy a little bit of rebellion, we also overcome our revulsion towards things that are considered "wrong" and thus gain a greater insight into the nature of the world.

You've already shown that you have the potential to further explore LHP philosophy simply by looking past the dark imagery to see what it's all about. Whether a LHP follower chooses to adopt the dark imagery for themselves is really up to them, but hopefully this will give you a better understanding of why it's there in the first place

 

[savethedreams]

While I agree with much of what Orias already said (I'm torn myself on strict LaVeyans, I've seen some who were incredibly intelligent and others who are simply *** holes) I'd like to expand upon the notion of darkness.
Much of the appeal in the LHP lies in it being somewhat forbidden. It naturally rebels against societal norms and uses imagery and symbolism that highlights this. Becoming comfortable with the dark imagery is simply one way to overcome societal taboos and to see the bigger picture. Satan, Lucifer, Darkness, Pentagrams... all of these are thought of as evil and frightening to the majority of people. By embracing these things, not only do we enjoy a little bit of rebellion, we also overcome our revulsion towards things that are considered "wrong" and thus gain a greater insight into the nature of the world.

You've already shown that you have the potential to further explore LHP philosophy simply by looking past the dark imagery to see what it's all about. Whether a LHP follower chooses to adopt the dark imagery for themselves is really up to them, but hopefully this will give you a better understanding of why it's there in the first place

Gotcha! but if there were no social structure and people were LIBERAL to the max, how can one still be luciferian or a satanist for ex:

the nun walks by the boy with dark eyeliner dark hair, and a devil on his shirt and she says "i got this new eyeliner it work very well, and gives it to him and walks away" ... gay marriage is legal, and there are no social taboos.

What would satanism 'rebell against' then if there nothing to rebell? You can' rebell against liberal?

 

[Orias]

While I agree with much of what Orias already said (I'm torn myself on strict LaVeyans, I've seen some who were incredibly intelligent and others who are simply *** holes) I'd like to expand upon the notion of darkness.
Much of the appeal in the LHP lies in it being somewhat forbidden. It naturally rebels against societal norms and uses imagery and symbolism that highlights this. Becoming comfortable with the dark imagery is simply one way to overcome societal taboos and to see the bigger picture. Satan, Lucifer, Darkness, Pentagrams... all of these are thought of as evil and frightening to the majority of people. By embracing these things, not only do we enjoy a little bit of rebellion, we also overcome our revulsion towards things that are considered "wrong" and thus gain a greater insight into the nature of the world.

You've already shown that you have the potential to further explore LHP philosophy simply by looking past the dark imagery to see what it's all about. Whether a LHP follower chooses to adopt the dark imagery for themselves is really up to them, but hopefully this will give you a better understanding of why it's there in the first place

I couldn't of worded it any better.

 

[Erebus]

Gotcha! but if there were no social structure and people were LIBERAL to the max, how can one still be luciferian or a satanist for ex:

the nun walks by the boy with dark eyeliner dark hair, and a devil on his shirt and she says "i got this new eyeliner it work very well, and gives it to him and walks away" ... gay marriage is legal, and there are no social taboos.

What would satanism 'rebell against' then if there nothing to rebell? You can' rebell against liberal?

You've hit upon a very valid point there. The LHP tends to be adversarial and deliberately goes against the norm. Obviously this isn't the sum total of the LHP, in a purely liberal world where everybody was accepting of one another, the self serving elements of the LHP would still apply.
Having said that, LHP deals with society as it is and thus there will always be something that needs an adversary. The hypothetical society you mentioned would certainly impact upon the image and practice of the LHP, but is unlikely to ever happen

You might also note that the LHP followers tend not to proselytize, in fact many are more likely to tell people the LHP is not for them than they are to advertise it. This is largely due to the fact that the LHP can only ever have a minority following, it simply isn't suitable for "average joe" and society needs a strong "herd" to function properly.

I couldn't of worded it any better.

Thankyou

 

[Orias]

You've hit upon a very valid point there. The LHP tends to be adversarial and deliberately goes against the norm. Obviously this isn't the sum total of the LHP, in a purely liberal world where everybody was accepting of one another, the self serving elements of the LHP would still apply.
Having said that, LHP deals with society as it is and thus there will always be something that needs an adversary. The hypothetical society you mentioned would certainly impact upon the image and practice of the LHP, but is unlikely to ever happen

I agree, Satan literally means Opposition or Adversary, this can be easily applied elsewhere as well.

It isn't necessarily a hostile form of Opposition, more so to the point where the Opposition is required to pursue the sword of the mind to overcome the roughage of the land.

Or in other words, it is the beneficial adversary, partner in crime, in which both sides seem to "ignorantly" make each other more "informative" of each others likeness.

You might also note that the LHP followers tend not to proselytize, in fact many are more likely to tell people the LHP is not for them than they are to advertise it. This is largely due to the fact that the LHP can only ever have a minority following, it simply isn't suitable for "average joe" and society needs a strong "herd" to function properly.

I also agree here, most LHP followers, Satanists in specific are able to weed out the compitent from the incompitent.

It may be a harsher side of the argument to agree with, but it tends to adhere to the more realistic parts, Satanism or the LHP in general is not for everyone, mostly including those who subject themselves to being "moral", which most people mistake being "moral" as following a singular set of ethics that is "right" or "wrong", when a more firm and assertive stance is truly that of one who realizes the fallacies of human nature.

But then again, most people are too indifferent to actually care and acknowledge the quickly changing world around them.

 

[savethedreams]

You've hit upon a very valid point there. The LHP tends to be adversarial and deliberately goes against the norm. Obviously this isn't the sum total of the LHP, in a purely liberal world where everybody was accepting of one another, the self serving elements of the LHP would still apply.
Having said that, LHP deals with society as it is and thus there will always be something that needs an adversary. The hypothetical society you mentioned would certainly impact upon the image and practice of the LHP, but is unlikely to ever happen

You might also note that the LHP followers tend not to proselytize, in fact many are more likely to tell people the LHP is not for them than they are to advertise it. This is largely due to the fact that the LHP can only ever have a minority following, it simply isn't suitable for "average joe" and society needs a strong "herd" to function properly.




Thankyou

I agree, Satan literally means Opposition or Adversary, this can be easily applied elsewhere as well.

It isn't necessarily a hostile form of Opposition, more so to the point where the Opposition is required to pursue the sword of the mind to overcome the roughage of the land.

Or in other words, it is the beneficial adversary, partner in crime, in which both sides seem to "ignorantly" make each other more "informative" of each others likeness.




I also agree here, most LHP followers, Satanists in specific are able to weed out the compitent from the incompitent.

It may be a harsher side of the argument to agree with, but it tends to adhere to the more realistic parts, Satanism or the LHP in general is not for everyone, mostly including those who subject themselves to being "moral", which most people mistake being "moral" as following a singular set of ethics that is "right" or "wrong", when a more firm and assertive stance is truly that of one who realizes the fallacies of human nature.

But then again, most people are too indifferent to actually care and acknowledge the quickly changing world around them.

Here is a solid good puzzling thought provoking question about LHP.....

Do you have to be left handed to be LHP? think about it..

 

[Jacksnyte]

Here is a solid good puzzling thought provoking question about LHP.....

Do you have to be left handed to be LHP? think about it..

No...

 

[savethedreams]

No...

That was a lil jokey jokey lol :drool: I'm thirsty for humor as I'm thirsty for religious knowledge.

 

[Orias]

Here is a solid good puzzling thought provoking question about LHP.....

Do you have to be left handed to be LHP? think about it..

Haha, of course not, though I notice that my left side of my body actually is stronger and bigger in mass, though I am mainly right handed and legged.

Tis rather strange :rainbow1:

 

[Luminous]

What do you mean by 'the mind"????

have faith child, with faith you can convince yourself of anything.
:sarcastic

 

[RememberGracey]

Communicating with Luce is not as hard as it sounds. Maybe its just like that for me, but I actually find it difficult to tune him out. From what I've experienced with my own encounters with Luce, its really about accepting your flaws and wrong-doings, and knowing that he doesn't care. Even that, although you may not be proud of the bad decisions you've made, he is. It may help to talk to him out loud. I find that I can feel his prescence more strongly at night, and all you have to do is be honest with him. Lying to Luce won't do you any good anyway, because I've discovered that at least in my situation, he knows everything I say, do, think, and feel, sometimes before even I know. I have had several encounters with Lucifer. Actually, its been sort of a constant encounter. I've seen Lucifer (I've come to call him Luce, for short) as a large white dog. Every time I've seen the dog, it- he has smiled at me. He has solid black eyes that don't reflect light, and when he stares at you, its like he's seeing into your soul. It's very intimate and extremely disturbing. I saw the dog for the first time in my life when I was 12 years old and ever since then, it feels as if Luce is always with me, especially at night when I'm alone. When this happens, I can not see him, but I can feel him with me. I talk to him, usually not out loud, but we argue and talk about a lot of things. He seems to know everything that I say, think, do, or feel, so I can't keep anything from him. In order for you to understand why I've done what I've done, you need to know about my sister. She's 3 years older than me and she used to be my best friend. We were both raised in a small, hick/gossip-filled town. You know, the kind where everyone knows what happened as soon as its done. Well, I got out, and she didn't, and it turned her into one of those people. The small-town, dead-end, gossip-addicted people. But that's only half the reason that we fought. We used to be so close, like two complete polar opposite forces of nature. But we lost that because of so many things. A couple weeks ago, Luce came to me with a... proposition. In a nutshell, I could have that relationship with my sister back forever, in exchange for my soul. Now, you must understand that my sister is my best friend, my confidant, my rock. Without her, I wouldn't have a chance in hell. So of course, I had no choice. And guess what, my sister called me the next day. We've begun to work on our relationship. We're actually friends again. You should know that she's seen the dog too. I don't think she's ever had an encounter with Luce like I have, but she's seen the dog several times, and she knows who he is, just as I do. Kathryn does not know about my deal with Lucifer, and I don't ever want her to. Anyway, since I... for lack of a better term, sold my soul, I've felt the need to see him. The way I imagine Lucifer as a man is not how most people picture him. I picture him as beautiful, blonde hair, blue eyes, perfect in every way. Because he's the Prince of Lies, of trickery, of deceit and manipulation. People are more likely to trust a beautiful person, and after all, he was an angel.​