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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (the anti-christ)

J Bryson

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I understand that he's a holocaust denier. Tell you what, instead of exploiting Anne Frank's image on this site, why don't you send it to the Iranian UN Ambassador?
 

Elessar

Well-Known Member
Bored now.

(frubals for first person to PM me the origin of this quote)
 
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FFH

Veteran Member
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, also an Iranian Shi'ite Muslim (as is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad), also said the Holocaust was a myth.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is perpetuating Khomeini's beliefs.
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Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, right, meets with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, center, as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, left looks on during an official meeting in Tehran, Iran, Tuesday, Nov. 28, 2006. A photo of Iran's late leader Ayatollah Khomeini, hangs on the wall in the background.

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FFH

Veteran Member
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The caption at the bottom of this picture says "Ahmadinejad the Hostage taker 1979". You can see Mahmoud just behind the hostage.
 
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FFH

Veteran Member
The story of Esther in the Bible, is a direct parallel to what is currently going on in Persia (Iraq and Iran) and throughout the Middle East.

Esther (meaning "hidden") was a Jew living in Persia. Her real name being Hadassah, a Jewish orphan, who was adopted by Mordechai.
Esther (Hadassah) is Mordechai's uncle's daughter.

Esther - Pt 1 of 10 (Full Movie)

Another more recent film about the story of Esther

One Night With The King Part 1

The Jews, in the story of Esther, were all sentenced to die. Esther asked her people (the Jews) to fast for three days and three nights.

This story of Esther in the Bible, has a good ending. All the Jews were spared their lives.

The same scenario is playing out in these last days, in which all the Jews will be saved.

Another Holocaust is being planed, by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Persia) and his allies, but the Lord will turn their (the Jews) enimies away from them and they (the enemies of the Jews who would have them killed) will suffer the same death that they are now plotting against them.

This is was is termed "Armageddon," the final battle, in which the Lord intervenes and kills the enemies of the Jews, those that whould have them killed.

The story of Esther is a direct parallel to these last days. The character Hamen, in the Bible book of Esther, is a direct parallel and a type and shadow of things to come for those who plot to kill the Jews.

Hamen represents the fate of those are currently plotting to kill the Jews.

"Israel will soon disappear" ~Mahmoud Ahmadinejad~

In a twist of fate, Hamen was hanged upon the gallows that were constructed in order to hang Mordechai.

The same fate will happen to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. He will died the same death he had planned against the Jews, which is by a Nuclear bomb.

Mahmoud is a modern day Hamen.

In this video, from July of 2008, he states that "Israel will soon disappear" and that the U.S. is also a target. His plans will backfire and he and his country will be destroyed.

Ahmadinejad: Israel Will Disappear From Map

Mahmoud's threats will turn against him in the end, and he and all those who seek to kill the Jews or any of God's chosen people, will be killed, by the Lord.

Ahmadinejad: Israel and US Bound to Become Extinct

From the Jesrusalem Post, May 8, 2008, 6 days before Israel's 60 year anniversary of becoming a State, on May 14, 1948.

Quotes below are from this article in the Jerusalem post: Ahmadinejad: Israel a 'stinking corpse' | Iran news | Jerusalem Post

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday that the state of Israel is a "stinking corpse" that is destined to disappear, the French news agency AFP reported.

"Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken," the official IRNA news agency quoted Ahmadinejad as having said.

"Today the reason for the Zionist regime's existence is questioned and this regime is on its way to annihilation."

Ahmadinejad further stated that Israel "has reached the end like a dead rat after being slapped by the Lebanese" - referring to the Second Lebanon War in the summer of 2006.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calls Israel a "dirty micobe" and a "savage animal". See this link:AFP: Ahmadinejad in new attack on 'savage animal' Israel

FFH speaking: A Jewish Holocaust, by the hands of the Persians (Mahmoud Ahmadinejad), will not be repeated, because of the parallels of our time which we see in the Biblical story of Esther. Mahmoud's plans will turn against him in the end, bringing about his own destruction and all those who have planned the destruction of the Jews.
 
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FFH

Veteran Member
This video alone proves Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not a peaceful leader, this thread's opening post address by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is inconsistent with this short speech in this YouTube video.

Which is it Mahmoud, a peaceful leader, or one who wages war against the State of Israel and all it's supporters like the U.S. and the U.K.

In this video he declares death to Israel and all who support the State of Israel, like the U.S. and the U,K.

He sounds anything but peaceful here.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: "Death to Israel"
 
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FFH

Veteran Member
This thread went from bad to worse.
When all else fails, the opposition then resorts to criticism, in a final attempt to discourage the debator.

I've given ample evidence, in this thread so far, to prove Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the final anti-christ (the final false prophet, the beast, etc.) spoken of in the Bible.
 
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FFH

Veteran Member
And you honestly think that the dude in the OP will unite all the world?

Seems to me that that is a stretch, even for you.
He's already got China and Russia backing him up militarily, that's more than half the world's population right there and I would also venture to say many more of the world's population does or will eventually support his plan to annihilate the State of Israel and all those who support the State of Israel throughout the world, especially in the U.S. and the U.K.
 
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Hyperborean

Cultural Conservative
Dr. Ahmadinejad has spoken with deference to Hazrat Isa (as) and the Prophets.

The contolled media in Amerikwa has, on the other hand, created a false idol and "messiah" out of Obama in their own right, and Obama seems to be revelling in the spotlight. According to a recent news article, Americans now see Obama as more important than Isa al-Masih (as), as they bow down before their pathetic new "god of democracy".
 
Dr. Ahmadinejad has spoken with deference to Hazrat Isa (as) and the Prophets.

The contolled media in Amerikwa has, on the other hand, created a false idol and "messiah" out of Obama in their own right, and Obama seems to be revelling in the spotlight. According to a recent news article, Americans now see Obama as more important than Isa al-Masih (as), as they bow down before their pathetic new "god of democracy".

Killing and destruction is easy. That does not prove an endorsement by the divine.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
Dr. Ahmadinejad has spoken with deference to Hazrat Isa (as) and the Prophets.
Those who call Jesus Christ, the Hazrat I'sa (the Prophet Jesus) are in opposition to proclaming Jesus Christ as the Savior, Redeemer, Messiah, Deliverer, etc. of this world and it's sins.

This belief is in opposition to Christ and his plan....

The contolled media in Amerikwa has, on the other hand, created a false idol and "messiah" out of Obama in their own right, and Obama seems to be revelling in the spotlight. According to a recent news article, Americans now see Obama as more important than Isa al-Masih (as), as they bow down before their pathetic new "god of democracy".
Obama, on the other hand, is not opposed to Jesus Christ, he's a Christian who professes Jesus Christ as his Savior, Redeemer, Messiah, Deliverer of his sins.

All those who profess Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh for the redemption of our sins, are for Christ, and have the Spirit of Christ in them.

All those who profess not that Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh for the redemption of our sins, are opposed to Christ, and have the spirit of anti-christ in them.

Shi'ite Muslims, which Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a practicing member of, believe that Jesus Christ is a prophet and not the Messiah of the world.

Shi'ite Muslims believe their Messiah (Mahdi) is yet to come.

1 John 2: 22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 4: 3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 John 1: 7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
 
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FFH

Veteran Member
Pur (fate) im (twist of)

Purim (twist of fate) was institued by Esther (Hadassah) to celebrate the victory of the Jews over the Persians who had decreed their extinction on the 13th of Adar of that year.

It's also known as the "Fast of Esther" since Esther had decreed that all of the Jews were to fast for three days and nights that the Lord would deliver them from their fate (Persian King's irrevocably decreed order that all the Jews be killed in the Persian empire).

There is a definite parallel between this event and Mahmoud's decree to rid the world of the State of Israel. The good news is, we (the Jews and all of God's people) win.

Purim falls on March 9, this year, 2009, just 10 days away. I'm not saying anything will happen this year, but a war will ensue between the Mahmoud (Persians) and his (their) allies in the future and the Lord will deliver the Jews and cause them to be victorious over their enemies. This will be the event we call Armageddon, in which the Jews and it's allies are victorious over Mahmoud (the Persians) and their allies.

Armageddon most likely will occur on or around this same month and day, Adar 13, sometime in the coming years. Bible prophecy fulfilled is subtle, it doesn't scream out at you and say, "look there's the Armageddon war that was prophesied in scripture," it has to be discerned by observing certain events with the Spirit of the Lord as a guide.

Monday, 13*Adar,*5769 - Jewish Calendar

PURIM - HEBREW / JEWISH - Feast Of Esther - Festival Of Lots

The 13th of Adar (Fast of Esther) - OU.ORG

The Fast of Esther
 
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Hyperborean

Cultural Conservative
Both the Shi'a and the Sunni believe that Jesus is the Messiah. In Shi'a eschatology, the Imam Madhi is a completely different figure from the Messiah.

Why don't you consider people like Ariel Sharon, Ehud Barack, and Tzivni Lipni to also be potential antichrists? The Jewish people are also waiting for their Messiah, and furthermore insult Jesus in the Talmud.
 
I think it is vital that America do the right thing and stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons which could possibly threaten Israel. Also, Iran should be invaded for their horrible human rights violations against minorities, women and gays, as well as denying the Holocaust, See this important link here: Washington Times - Israelis urge U.S. to stop Iran's nuke goals

Overall I think it is a good article, but I think it is anti-semitic for suggesting that Israel is somehow "pushing" America into the war. Any reasonable person should know that defeating tyranny by invading Iran and neutralizing threats to Jewish people should be a high priority. When the American goyim safeguard their Jewish allies, they are protecting democracy - in fact the only proper democracy in the Middle East.

Suggesting that Jews are pushing America into the war smacks of the same anti-semitic hatred we hear from people who imply that America invaded Iraq simply because the people in the Bush administration happened to be Zionist Jews. On that same note, it was really depressing hearing so many paranoid conspiracy theories about Rahm Emmanuel, a devout Jewish man.

Well, we all know that's just anti-semitic hatred. Jews and Israel should NEVER be blamed for the problems of the Middle East. Not when the Arabs have attempted genocide against the Jews for 60 years. Not when the Iranians are denying the Holocaust, randomly arresting Jews in Iran, and calling for the destruction of Israel.

Never Again, haters.
 
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FFH

Veteran Member
Both the Shi'a and the Sunni believe that Jesus is the Messiah. In Shi'a eschatology, the Imam Madhi is a completely different figure from the Messiah.

Why don't you consider people like Ariel Sharon, Ehud Barack, and Tzivni Lipni to also be potential antichrists? The Jewish people are also waiting for their Messiah, and furthermore insult Jesus in the Talmud.
True, Jews do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah, so they are guilty too, but they will accept their true Messiah when he appears to them at a future date. Will Muslims do the same ???

Many Jews, though, have already accepted their true Messiah Jesus Christ, these special Jews are refered to as Messianic Jews.

Shi'a and Sunni Muslims and the Quran refer to Jesus Christ as a prophet, not their Messiah. They're looking for another messiah that the prophet Muhammad promised them would come.

The Jews, on the other hand, are looking for their true Messiah, who will appear to them in the future, and show his nail marks in his hands and feet and the spear makr in his side and the Jews will say "What are these marks?". They are just blinded, right now, to the fact that Jesus Christ has already come, suffered and died for them.

Zech. 13: 6
And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

D&C 45: 52 (LDS scripture)
Then shall they know that I am the Lord; for I will say unto them: These wounds are the wounds with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. I am he who was lifted up. I am Jesus that was crucified. I am the Son of God.
 
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Hyperborean

Cultural Conservative
Shi'a and Sunni Muslims and the Quran refer to Jesus Christ as a prophet, not their Messiah. They're looking for another messiah that the prophet Muhammad promised them would come.
You have obviously never read the Quran, as it specifically refers to Jesus as the Messiah:

Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust. (5:72)

Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who believe (to be) the Jews and the idolaters. And thou wilt find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say: Lo! We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are not proud. (5:82)

When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. The Messiah, Isa son of Mary, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah). (3:45)

The Jews on the other hand, are the ones still looking for their 'Messiah,' not the Muslims. Moreover, they insulted the person of Jesus (as this book shows: Schäfer, P.: Jesus in the Talmud.), saying that Jesus and Christians went to hell.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
You have obviously never read the Quran, as it specifically refers to Jesus as the Messiah:

Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust. (5:72)

Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who believe (to be) the Jews and the idolaters. And thou wilt find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say: Lo! We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are not proud. (5:82)

When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. The Messiah, Isa son of Mary, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah). (3:45)

The Jews on the other hand, are the ones still looking for their 'Messiah,' not the Muslims. Moreover, they insulted the person of Jesus (as this book shows: Schäfer, P.: Jesus in the Talmud.), saying that Jesus and Christians went to hell.
You're taking those verses of the Quran out of context...

"The Messiah, son of Marium is but an apostle" link: The Dinner Table verse [5.75]

The Quoran reduces Jesus from Messiah to an apostle, but it doesn't stop there, the Quoran also professes that Jesus was not killed or crucified.

See this verse...

"And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure." link: The Women verse [4.175]

The writings of the Quoran even go so far as to ask Allah to destroy those who believe Jesus is the Messiah (Christians).

Think I'm joking ????

Here's the verse...

"And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" link:The Immunity verse [9.30]

Now tell me that the Quran professes Jesus as the Messiah...

Nice try.

Word search "Messiah" from The Koran


Still not convinced ????

"O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah" link:The Women verse [4.171]

Jesus Christ is reduced to a mere apostle of Allah, in that verse of the Quran, not the Messiah. There is no mistaking this.

An apostle is a follower of Allah, not a/the Messiah, according to the Quran.
 
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