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Man made god vs Buddha

Gjallarhorn

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Two things: Gautama Buddha was not atheist, and claimed not to be human.

Not to say he claimed to be a god or animal or something (he denied these too) or that a supreme creator god existed, but you are incorrect regardless.
 
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BUDDHADREAM

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ratikala said:
namaskaram buddhadream :namaste



please we must accept that others veiw things differently ,remember these are only words that we are using to decribe something that in its fullness can only be realised .

if we are to talk of the concept of god , we are talking of going very deep into realisation , without that depth of meditation we canot say what is god and what is not .

the god that a christian realises is the primal cause that buddhism refers to

god is the primal cause , and the primal cause is god .

lord buddha only taught what our minds could comprehend beyond that he gave us a method by which to reach full realisation .

that thread of life , that energy which comes from the primal cause is the breath of god , when buddha taught that life is an infinate cycle of cause and efect he spoke simplisticaly for our benifit , and what he taught was not so much a discovery but a revelation of his knowledge . einstein as you say developed a 'theory' but such theories are incomplete realisation , einstein only scratches the surface of all there is to be realised .

cause and effect is only the phenomena that we observe , beyond cause and efect is something much larger that we in this embodied state canot fully comprehend .

even buddha himself is only one of an endless cycle of buddhas who take embodied form in this realm not to discover but to reveal :namaste

therefore please let us not think of one realisation verses another , let us just rejoice in eachothers realisation :namaste
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:) thanks for your comments.

First of all, I fully respect & accept all other religions, because we are family & from the same source indeed. That is the truth, we are here for each other. ^_^

My point is, do not let the labels, ideas & perceptions separate us from the true self, others & the universe.

If you are able to see things as they are from the origin point of view, without carrying the labels, ideas & perceptions that you adopted from the world, it will help you to return to the nature condition & see the true reality of who you really are.

Mediation is just one of the way to help us to stay present & to remove the killing perceptions we got from the world, it helps to purify the mind, so that the we can cultivate deeper wisdom to see the true reality of us. Without removing the dirt, we can never be able to see the gem inside us.

Meditation without wisdom of understanding the dharma (Buddha's teaching), will never help you to be enlightened.

Enlightenment requires compassion & wisdom.

Btw, as far as i know, there isn't anything higher than the truth of the universal law of "cause & effect" if you truly understand how law of universe works. Only the true enlightenment one will be able to understand it because they are the one who can truly see things as they are without worldly perceptions & ideas.

:beach:
 
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BUDDHADREAM

Member
Gjallarhorn said:
Two things: Gautama Buddha was not atheist, and claimed not to be human.

Not to say he claimed to be a god or animal or something (he denied these too) or that a supreme creator god existed, but you are incorrect regardless.
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Would you be more specific? I couldn't find anything in Buddha's teaching to support what you claimed here.

Any sutra made you think that he was not atheist & human? Please let me know if you can quote any of it from his teachings!
 
DreadFish

DreadFish

Cosmic Vagabond
Gjallarhorn said:
Two things: Gautama Buddha was not atheist, and claimed not to be human.

Not to say he claimed to be a god or animal or something (he denied these too) or that a supreme creator god existed, but you are incorrect regardless.
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Nothing can be said about the state of the Tathagata :yes:
 
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Athan

Member
BUDDHADREAM said:
Buddha is human NOT god as he had already claimed. He is also the source of universe, like all beings.

Buddha was the awakened one not god, he was here to tell you truth of how the universe works.

Buddha is Atheist. Only an Atheist can attain enlightenment & nirvana, just like Buddha. Because of the openness to the universe & respect the equality of all beings which will enable atheist to reach mindfulness (See things as they are).
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Thanks for the info. I know almost nothing about this religion.
 
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BUDDHADREAM

Member
Athan said:
Thanks for the info. I know almost nothing about this religion.
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You are welcome, nice to share the great compassion & wisdom of Buddha with all of you! I am new too, more threads & posts are on the way. :)

May joy & peace be with all beings on earth.

If you would like to find out more about Buddhism & Zen practice, please visit my blog at: buddhasdreamllc.com
 
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BUDDHADREAM

Member
DreadFish said:
Nothing can be said about the state of the Tathagata :yes:
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Buddha was atheist, because, all of his teachings were about the universal law of "cause & effect" & the karmic relations. There was nothing about creator "god".

Buddha was a human, because, he went through the same life pattern like all beings: birth, aging, illness, decay & death.

Buddha was the awakened one, because he saw the impermanence & inter-connection nature of everything.

Buddha was the great teacher of all, because he got the map of compassion & wisdom to bring you out from mental & physical sufferings, the illusion of the rebirth cycles, as well as enlightenment, nirvana & buddhahood.

Look forward to share more with you :rainbow1:
 
Gjallarhorn

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
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Gjallarhorn

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
BUDDHADREAM said:
I think you need to check out more about who is Buddha & what was his teachings all about.

Buddhism is beyond religion as there has no god, but the truth of how universe works.
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So you asked for links to sutras with no intent to actually read them? How doubly sad.
 
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BUDDHADREAM

Member
Gjallarhorn said:
So you asked for links to sutras with no intent to actually read them? How doubly sad.
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Btw, you won't be so sad like now, if you know Buddha & his teachings.

So, don't worry, you will be a much happier person if you keep following my threads & find out what made you a sad person.

Be well & happy!:angel2:
 
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graalbaum

Triple Sun
BUDDHADREAM said:
"Man Made God" vs "Buddha"
Man made god:
1. He is in controls of everything.
2. Pray & rely on his never coming savior, true problem never been resolved.
3. Your mind is being locked & controlled
4. Suffers from loosing the control of your mind & unsolved problems.

Buddha:
1. Tells you the truth of how the universe works.
2. All problems will be resolved if you live according to the law of universe.
3. You are in control of your life, no one else.
4. You obtain the Freedom of mind by walking on the path to enlightenment.
5. Enlightenment brings you out from all sufferings & conditions.
6. Return yourself to the true source of universe.
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:facepalm: uh yeah rather overly simplistic... on both counts

:facepalm:ut uh yeah hello
 
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graalbaum

Triple Sun
BUDDHADREAM said:
It depends on how you define the term of "god".

If you define god as the only creator of universe and you are the son of god, then, you are being blocked, nothing can be done, that hazard perception will destroy your ability of self realization totally.

If you define god as the creator of the universe and all beings in the whole universe is part of god. Then, it is very possible for you to be liberated from the illusion of rebirth cycles.

Be well & happy! :)
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It is my firm belief that it is a mistake to hold firm beliefs
 
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graalbaum

Triple Sun
BUDDHADREAM said:
:) good to know that.

But the concept of "god" needs to be very clear. There is true source of universe, but the source of the universe is not the creator, rather, we are all part of the source & energies which formed the whole planet.

Einstein's E=mc2 theory has already proved what buddha had taught in 2600 years ago, our life is beginless, endless & infinite. No creator, the whole universe & our life is running by the law of universe called the "cause & effect" which discovered by Buddha 2600 years ago.
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Do not involve others in your unrighteousness,
Nor destroy your mind by believing your own untruths.
Do not flatter or give false praise
When there is fear compelling you.
Do not converse falsely with any man,
For it is abhorrent to the Gods.
If you do not separate your mind from your tongue,
Then all your plans will succeed.
You will be revered before others,
And you will be secure in the sight of Rah.
The Gods hate he who falsifies his words,
His duplicity is a great abomination.



–ancient egyptian




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BUDDHADREAM

Member
graalbaum said:
Do not involve others in your unrighteousness,
Nor destroy your mind by believing your own untruths.
Do not flatter or give false praise
When there is fear compelling you.
Do not converse falsely with any man,
For it is abhorrent to the Gods.
If you do not separate your mind from your tongue,
Then all your plans will succeed.
You will be revered before others,
And you will be secure in the sight of Rah.
The Gods hate he who falsifies his words,
His duplicity is a great abomination.



–ancient egyptian




MrNatural.gif
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That's why the ancient egyptian are all gone and still so corrupted until now, due to their ignorance and blind faith of their belief. :faint:
 
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