Mandatory Vaccinations?

[tytlyf]

Please cite reference source.

Your graph is the source. Do the math.

 

[Suave]

All right, I'm considering it. Myo-carditis and peri-carditis do happen (even without the vaccine), and there are well-established protocols for dealing with them -- almost 100% without serious or lasting effects. There was, on the other hand, a fairly young man who didn't bother with the vaccine, caught the virus -- and now has two new lungs. He will never be the same nor ever up to what he could have been.

Comment?

Per CDC data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) demonstrating the risks of myocarditis or pericarditis to mRNA COVID-19 vaccinated young men and adolescent males. 323 reports on the VAERS website met the CDC’s working definition for heart inflammation (myocarditis or pericarditis). 309 of them were hospitalized, and nine of them are still in hospital, two of whom are in intensive care.

The incidence of heart inflammation among adolescent boys specifically (aged between 12 and 17) was 32 times higher among the vaccinated population (128 cases observed where 4 would otherwise be expected). In young men (aged between 18 and 24), the rate was more than 27 times higher (219 cases where 8 would otherwise have been expected).

 

[Suave]

Your graph is the source. Do the math.

Please let us concur 309 hospitalizations from heart inflammation out of 3 million young adult men and adolescent males vaccinated would figure out to be a serious complication rate of 1 in 10,000 or 0.01 percent., that'd be a thousand times higher rate of complications than the 0.00001% of people developed complications you'd mentioned.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I already tried that but they got taken down.....you aren't allowed to talk about these things apparently. You have only one side of the story, and no one is permitted to hear that it might be the wrong side.......too late for those who have already had the jab that they were led to believe was safe......no one has proven to date that there aren't any long term and potentially devastating outcomes that may be awaiting an unsuspecting public in the future.

YouTube is the only place where a voice can be heard but be quick, because the censors will be on the job making sure that as few people as possible see it.

The last one I posted here, (which was quickly removed) was from the inventor of mRNA technology himself admitting that there were studies done in Japan (even before this vaccine was released) proving that there was a possibility of women getting unwanted outcomes down the track where lipids (the vaccine's delivery system) were found concentrated in the ovaries of women who had the mRNA vaccine......and they also found traces of these vaccine components in the bone marrow, where this doctor said it should have stayed in the muscle, but had traveled via the blood stream to places it was not supposed to go. When you hear these things from the experts and they are withheld from the public, what do you think might be the motive?
I will be surprised if my comments here remain.....

Conspiracy theory run amok.

I already tried that but they got taken down.....you aren't allowed to talk about these things apparently. You have only one side of the story, and no one is permitted to hear that it might be the wrong side.......too late for those who have already had the jab that they were led to believe was safe......no one has proven to date that there aren't any long term and potentially devastating outcomes that may be awaiting an unsuspecting public in the future.

YouTube is the only place where a voice can be heard but be quick, because the censors will be on the job making sure that as few people as possible see it.

The last one I posted here, (which was quickly removed) was from the inventor of mRNA technology himself admitting that there were studies done in Japan (even before this vaccine was released) proving that there was a possibility of women getting unwanted outcomes down the track where lipids (the vaccine's delivery system) were found concentrated in the ovaries of women who had the mRNA vaccine......and they also found traces of these vaccine components in the bone marrow, where this doctor said it should have stayed in the muscle, but had traveled via the blood stream to places it was not supposed to go. When you hear these things from the experts and they are withheld from the public, what do you think might be the motive?
I will be surprised if my comments here remain.....

They might remain longer if you provide links to the claims you make. I still don't understand why you seem so loathe to do that. (There aren't any? They don't back up you claims? What?)

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Please let us concur 309 hospitalizations from heart inflammation out of 3 million young adult men and adolescent males vaccinated would figure out to be a serious complication rate of 1 in 10,000 or 0.01 percent., that'd be a thousand times higher rate of complications than the 0.00001% of people developed complications you'd mentioned.

Okay, I will concede that -- it is certainly serious.

How many have died?

 

[Suave]

Okay, I will concede that -- it is certainly serious.

How many have died?

So far, I suspect only one, that being Jacob Clynick, age 13, Saginaw, Michigan; of course, it is too early to say how many will end up dying from myocarditis or pericarditis by being mRNA COVID-19 vaccinated.

 

[Deeje]

Goodness gracious!

Its a trust thing....and I don't trust anyone who is motivated by greed. They tell you what they want you to hear but not the very inconvenient truth.....those who are vaccinated can still spread the virus....go figure....

 

[Deeje]

Conspiracy theory run amok.

The funny thing about conspiracy theories is that some of them are actually true....they are all lumped in together so that you will assume that they are all rubbish.....tine will tell, won't it?

They might remain longer if you provide links to the claims you make. I still don't understand why you seem so loathe to do that. (There aren't any? They don't back up you claims? What?)

The links were taken down too. But it seems as if this is still on YouTube.....be quick before it disappears....

DarkHorse Podcast Clips


Please look up Dr Robert Malone and what his credentials are.....this is not a conspiracy theorist.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It's assuming your example applies to all examples.

I mentioned "some" nurses are not taking the vaccine and I found that interesting.

Other than that, you'd have to rephrase. My statement wasn't a personal statement, but it seems you implied my some meant all.

You didn't just say that some nurses weren't getting vaccinated; you said "there are nurses that probably didn't take the vaccine for valid intelligent reasons."

I'd like to know some of the reasons you had in mind or have heard about. Reasons that would be valid and intelligent reasons for a nurse doing front-line, hands-on care of patients to decide to refuse to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

So... what are some of these reasons?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The funny thing about conspiracy theories is that some of them are actually true....they are all lumped in together so that you will assume that they are all rubbish.....tine will tell, won't it?



The links were taken down too. But it seems as if this is still on YouTube.....be quick before it disappears....

DarkHorse Podcast Clips


Please look up Dr Robert Malone and what his credentials are.....this is not a conspiracy theorist.

I can't find out who these people are -- do you know? Credentials?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

"The inventor of mRNA vaccines said 'the government is not being transparent about the risks' of the COVID-19 vaccine after YouTube deleted a video where he discussed potential risks for young adults and teens.

Dr. Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA technology that's now being used in the COVID-19 vaccine, told Fox's Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night that there isn't enough data about the risks for these age groups and doesn't believe they should be forced to get vaccinated.

'I don't think the benefits outweigh the risks in that cohort,' said Malone, referring to people in the 18 to 22 age bracket, 'but unfortunately the risk-benefit analysis is not being done.'

'My concern is I know there are risks but we don't have access to the data,' Malone said. 'And so, I am of the opinion that people have the right to decide whether to accept vaccines or not, especially since these are experimental vaccines.'"

mRNA inventor says young adults shouldn't have to get COVID vaccine

Setting aside all the other research that shows his fears are unfounded, do you know many nurses who are under 22?

 

[Suave]

I can't find out who these people are -- do you know? Credentials?

Dr. Robert Malone is the founder of mRNA based vaccines.

Dr Robert Malone Wikipedia| Wife Age, Net Worth - mRNA Inventor

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The funny thing about conspiracy theories is that some of them are actually true....they are all lumped in together so that you will assume that they are all rubbish.....tine will tell, won't it?



The links were taken down too. But it seems as if this is still on YouTube.....be quick before it disappears....

DarkHorse Podcast Clips


Please look up Dr Robert Malone and what his credentials are.....this is not a conspiracy theorist.

Actually, you may be quite wrong about this Malone --- he's still cranky about not getting his Nobel prize. Look him up...do the research. The rest of us are sick to death of having to check out all this garbage for you.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Dr. Robert Malone is the founder of mRNA based vaccines.

Dr Robert Malone Wikipedia| Wife Age, Net Worth - mRNA Inventor

Look deeper (if you can figure out how).

 

[Unveiled Artist]

You didn't just say that some nurses weren't getting vaccinated; you said "there are nurses that probably didn't take the vaccine for valid intelligent reasons."

I'd like to know some of the reasons you had in mind or have heard about. Reasons that would be valid and intelligent reasons for a nurse doing front-line, hands-on care of patients to decide to refuse to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

So... what are some of these reasons?

The reasons that's been on these threads for awhile... side affects, location (some places have more cases than others), age (child, teen, adult, senior), general health, and other factors.... talking with one's doctor before getting the vaccine and other already listed reasons....

No matter what intelligent reason I give, you'd shoot it down.

My question is, though, what does it matter that they Do have intelligent and justified reasons to not take the vaccine?

Why do they need to be ignorant to make a decisions you disagree with?
(Appeal to ignorance?)

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

WHY CAN'T ALL YOU CONSPIRACY TWITS DO SOME FREAKING RESEARCH. Why do you have to report every spurious podcast as if it was actually real -- when most of the it is not? Do you know how to do research? Do you know how to look for what is true and what is not?

And if you don't --- how the freaking heck do you suppose anything you write here has any meaning whatever?

 

[Suave]

Setting aside all the other research that shows his fears are unfounded, do you know many nurses who are under 22?

I'm guessing many health practitioners are much older than age 21, they or their older than age 21 patients would be at a considerably higher risk of death by catching C.O.V.I.D.-19 than would be the odds of an adolescent dying from C.O.V.I.D.-19.

 

[Suave]

Actually, you may be quite wrong about this Malone --- he's still cranky about not getting his Nobel prize. Look him up...do the research. The rest of us are sick to death of having to check out all this garbage for you.

Look deeper (if you can figure out how).

Malone, R. W.; Felgner, P. L.; Verma, I. M. (1 August 1989). "Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 86 (16): 6077–6081.

 

[Deeje]

I can't find out who these people are -- do you know? Credentials?

Watch the video and you will see who they are.....Dr Brett Weinstien is a biologist.
COVID, Ivermectin, and the Crime of the Century: DarkHorse Podcast with Pierre Kory & Bret Weinstein - Bret Weinstein | DarkHorse Podcast | iHeartRadio
Dr Robert Malone is the man who invented mRNA technology.
RNA Vaccine Inventor — RW Malone MD, LLC

Steve Kirsch has a BS/MS in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from MIT.
These are not random conspiracy theorists. They have a story to tell and they're being silenced.

 

[Deeje]

WHY CAN'T ALL YOU CONSPIRACY TWITS DO SOME FREAKING RESEARCH. Why do you have to report every spurious podcast as if it was actually real -- when most of the it is not? Do you know how to do research? Do you know how to look for what is true and what is not?

And if you don't --- how the freaking heck do you suppose anything you write here has any meaning whatever?

What research would that be EH? The whitewashed garbage that is broadcast all over the media, or the highly censored stuff that might just be trying to warn people of the danger?

Who has the most to gain? The drug companies pressuring governments to keep flogging their dangerously untested vaccines? Or those who know about the inside information that we are not privy to? What is their gain?