Many Paths???

[Jim]

Interesting topic ...

What’s a nice guy like you doing in a place like this?

 

[wandering peacefully]

Of the religions listed, their ages vary between 10,000 years old in the case of Hinduism and 1,400 with Islam. The Quran most accurately and reliably reflects what the Founder of its religion taught. After that the Gospels which records the life and Teachings of Christ. That being said there is good reason to see Divine Inspiration within the Vedas, Buddhist Pali canon or the Torah.

Yes, you already said that.
The topic was ultimate truth. What is that and which religion gets one there?

 

[e.r.m.]

Show the way to what?

In answer to the op, supreme/ultimate truth,

 

[Dawnofhope]

Yes, you already said that.
The topic was ultimate truth. What is that and which religion gets one there?

The ultimate nature of truth can not be adequately understood or described by any human, any more than a table can comprehend the reality of the carpenter who created it, nor the baby in the womb to conceive of the world beyond its immediate constraints. Any of the paths outlined can enable such a realisation.

 

[wandering peacefully]

supreme/ultimate truth

What is that?

 

[wandering peacefully]

The ultimate nature of truth can not be adequately understood or described by any human, any more than a table can comprehend the reality of the carpenter of created it, nor the baby in the womb to conceive of the world beyond its immediate constraints. Any of the paths outlined can enable such a realisation.

Well good grief, if the ultimate truth cannot be defined and no one can understand it and it has no meaning, why are people so busy trying to find it?

 

[The Reverend Bob]

I just do not see how one can deny an "ultimate truth".

Easy.

 

[Jim]

Well good grief, if the ultimate truth cannot be defined and no one can understand it and it has no meaning, why are people so busy trying to find it?

“Ultimate truth” might be a kind of idiom, a way of talking about living the best life we can. Like with “kick the bucket.” A person doesn’t need to know what a bucket is, to know what “kick the bucket” means.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

It is the the one where you hit the end of the road and say o.k. now I understand.

Is it something to eat? What does it taste like?

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Yes.

Religions which don't show the ultimate truth are cults.

I think it is the other way around. Because all the cults I know of claim that they have the ultimate truth

 

[Dawnofhope]

Well good grief, if the ultimate truth cannot be defined and no one can understand it and it has no meaning, why are people so busy trying to find it?

I did not say it has no meaning. Just because a man can not contain the ocean within the palms of his hand does not mean he is prevented from diving into the ocean and discovering the pearls of wisdom hidden neath its depths.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

And the others?

They don't like Taoism for some reason

 

[The Reverend Bob]

“Many paths lead from the foot of the mountain, but at the peak we all gaze at the single bright moon.”

That doesn't mean a damn thing. Gobbledygook

 

[The Reverend Bob]

I did not say it has no meaning. Just because a man can not contain the ocean within the palms of his hand does not mean he is prevented from diving into the ocean and discovering the pearls of wisdom hidden neath its depths.

What if the pearls are a lie?

 

[Dawnofhope]

What if the pearls are a lie?

As humans we have the capacity to distinguish right from wrong, truth from error. If a man is sincere and persistent eventually his quest for truth shall be rewarded and that truth has the potential to set him free.

 

[Jim]

I think it’s mostly a figurative way of talking about living the best life we can.

Maybe sometimes what it means is something for people to know that is all anyone needs to know, or something else that can happen to a person, that is all that needs to happen, for them to live the best life they can.

Whatever it means, or even if “supreme truth” or “ultimate truth” has no meaning by itself, if anyone is saying that there is not only one religion where people can find what they need, to live the best life they can, then I agree. I would also say that they can do that without believing in any religion at all, and that all the beliefs associated with all the religions can blind people to that and turn them away from it.

 

[Windwalker]

That doesn't mean a damn thing. Gobbledygook

Well, your path apparently is a dead end then. Seriously, how someone can't understand that, explains why they would say gobbledygook to that. No bright moon down that path into the deep, dark forest of rancid cynicism.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Well, your path apparently is a dead end then. Seriously, how someone can't understand that, explains why they would say gobbledygook to that. No bright moon down that path into the deep, dark forest of rancid cynicism.

It's vapid New Age nonsense that seems to be profound to the shallow minded pablum sucking spiritual babies that constitutes the New Age movement but when you really look at it it is just sugary sweet nonsense and makes about as much sense as "gaa gaa goo goo"

 

[Windwalker]

It's vapid New Age nonsense that seems to be profound to the shallow minded pablum sucking spiritual babies that constitutes the New Age movement....

This proves my point about why you don't get it. You think it is New Age, which is 20th century California magic crystal crap. However, since you did not read the actual citation I gave that this came from a 14th century Zen Buddhist monk, that means you have a completely invalid thoughts here.

Unless you consider Zen Buddhism, "New Age"? Here's your New Age dude that said that you can read about..... Ikkyū - Wikipedia

but when you really look at it it is just sugary sweet nonsense and makes about as much sense as "gaa gaa goo goo"

No, it just means you don't understand it are embarassed by how you don't, so you like to proudly announce that Zen Buddhism is "goo goo gaa gaa." The joke is on you.

 

[Marcion]

Any path that is Tantric, i.e. that helps people in a practical way to get rid of their samskara's, their karmic load or worldly bondage is a path towards spiritual liberation.
It matters not what the cultural differences may be, but the system must be a Tantric, a practical one that leads to spiritual progress instead of stagnation or regression.

Our present unit consciousness is tied up in its samskara's and experiences a limited truth, but once liberated from those limitations and established in the Cosmic or Absolute Self our unit consciousness comes to its natural end.
This path towards the Ultimate Truth is universal and not a part of any particular religion or sectarian path.
The way of spiritual development is described by the introvertive or introspective science and not by any religion.