Marijuana

[Valjean]

All drugs should be decriminalized. Weed and other psychodelics should be treated in much the same way as alcohol, although they are less dangerous. Yes, you should be able to grow cannabis. The idea that a plant is illegal is totally absurd.

Not all drugs. Some are dangerous and need frequent blood level monitoring, of have a very narrow therapeutic-toxic range, or, like antibiotics, generate widespread bacterial resistance and untreatable infections.

 

[Colt]

Do you enjoy coffee?

Yes!

 

[Colt]

The more potent it is, the less of it you have to smoke, thus easier on the lungs.

You must not be a pot head?

 

[Father Heathen]

Yes!

So then why do you "self-medicate in order to enjoy reality"?

 

[Valjean]

With weed being much more available and far more potent than in the past, the likelihood of young people abusing it has increased.

I'm not so sure. It just takes less to achieve your high, plus the pharmacologically active constituents can be tailored to the user's preference: High, relaxation, pain relief, seizure prevention, &c. Plus, when smoked, you'll get a lot less mucous membrane irritation and carbon monoxide from one toke of concentrated pot than a dozen of '60s pot.
Unregulated pot is also likely to have toxins or adulterants.

 

[Father Heathen]

You must not be a pot head?

Does enjoying an occasional glass of wine or a beer make one an alcoholic?

 

[Colt]

So then why do you "self-medicate in order to enjoy reality"?

It helps my ADHD for which there is no cure. 1-2 cups a day but I prefer diet soft drinks.

 

[Father Heathen]

It helps my ADHD for which there is no cure. 1-2 cups a day but I prefer diet soft drinks.

Is wrong for those who don't have ADHD to consume coffee?

 

[Colt]

I'm not so sure. It just takes less to achieve your high, plus the pharmacologically active constituents can be tailored to the user's preference: High, relaxation, pain relief, seizure prevention, &c. Plus, when smoked, you'll get a lot less mucous membrane irritation and carbon monoxide from one toke of concentrated pot than a dozen of '60s pot.

Pot addicts were dissatisfied with the old weed, they wanted more THC. So now they abuse the hard stuff all day long!

 

[Colt]

I'm not so sure. It just takes less to achieve your high, plus the pharmacologically active constituents can be tailored to the user's preference: High, relaxation, pain relief, seizure prevention, &c. Plus, when smoked, you'll get a lot less mucous membrane irritation and carbon monoxide from one toke of concentrated pot than a dozen of '60s pot.

Pot addicts were dissatisfied with the old weed, they wanted more THC. So now they abuse the hard stuff all day long!

Does enjoying an occasional glass of wine or a beer make one an alcoholic?

No

Is wrong for those who don't have ADHD to consume coffee?

 

[Colt]

Is wrong for those who don't have ADHD to consume coffee?

No, coffee doesn't have the severity of negative effects that weed and alcohol abuse have. For the addictive brain weed is often a gateway into harder drugs. The addict brain needs more and more and eventually different kinds of drugs to get satisfied.

 

[Orbit]

No, coffee doesn't have the severity of negative effects that weed and alcohol abuse have. For the addictive brain weed is often a gateway into harder drugs. The addict brain needs more and more and eventually different kinds of drugs to get satisfied.

The "gateway drug" idea was debunked a long time ago.

 

[Valjean]

Mature people don't need to self-medicate in order to enjoy reality. Drug use is self-centered behavior.

What's wrong with enhancing enjoyment, or self centered behavior? Mature people spend a lot of money altering their consciousness on sports events, music, &c.
Enjoying good food, a comfortable house, comfortable clothes, a barbeque with friends, and the pleasure of volunteering at a charity are self-centered. Are they bad?

 

[Colt]

The "gateway drug" idea was debunked a long time ago.

It's still true for addicts even though some idiots think they debunked it.

 

[Valjean]

Psilocybin?

Careful, we're already skirting RF rules here.

 

[Father Heathen]

Pot addicts were dissatisfied with the old weed, they wanted more THC. So now they abuse the hard stuff all day long!

I "know a guy" who had some potent THC gummies. Instead of consuming a whole one he'd cut them into quarter pieces.

If people are aiming for a certain level of effect, they would simply use more of the weaker stuff.

You like coffee, but some have higher caffeine content than others. Does this pose a danger to you as a consumer of it, or are you capable of moderating your intake?

 

[Colt]

What's wrong with enhancing enjoyment, or self centered behavior? Mature people spend a lot of money altering their consciousness on sports events, music, &c.
Enjoying good food, a comfortable house, comfortable clothes, a barbeque with friends, and the pleasure of volunteering at a charity are self-centered. Are they bad?

Because the human condition is one of weakness. Drugs in particular have a powerful effect on the brain.

Have you ever heard someone say that they had some barbecue and blacked out, woke up in their own urine next to someone that they didn't know???? Then went looking for more barbecue becuse this time it will be different?

 

[Colt]

I "know a guy" who had some potent THC gummies. Instead of consuming a whole one he'd cut them into quarter pieces.

If people are aiming for a certain level of effect, they would simply use more of the weaker stuff.

You like coffee, but some have higher caffeine content than others. Does this pose a danger to you as a consumer of it, or are you capable of moderating your intake?

I'm capable of moderating coffee. Addicts don't have the power to moderate.

 

[Valjean]

It's still true for addicts even though some idiots think they debunked it.

Addicts are already past the gate.
A gateway drug or activity is one that puts you in contact with dangerous people or situations. It's not the substance, per se, that's the problem, but the dangerous or illegal contacts necessary to obtain it.

If you had to mingle with the underworld to obtain coca-cola or jazz records, these would be gateway substances. If you could obtain Heroin or pot at a legal dispensary, they would not put you in contact with dangerous elements.

 

[Colt]

Addicts are already past the gate.
A gateway drug or activity is one that puts you in contact with dangerous people or situations. It's not the substance, per se, that's the problem, but the dangerous or illegal contacts necessary to obtain it.

If you had to mingle with the underworld to obtain coca-cola or jazz records, these would be gateway substances. If you could obtain Heroin or pot at a legal dispensary, they would not put you in contact with dangerous elements.

Now that weed is basically legal then it will be easier to get AND the message to young people is that its harmless. BTW, illegal unregulated weed is far cheaper now.