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Mass shooting at gay nightclub.
- Thread starter Father Heathen
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Very sad indeed.
Heartbreaking. I'll be interested to learn the motive of the shooter.
I have a family member who was inside a bar when there was a mass shooting several years ago. He was physically unharmed but the lasting trauma of simply being there in the chaos and carnage and losing a friend is something we don't talk about enough.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
One thing that bothered me: Why release the name of the suspect? In my opinion it would be better if his name was forgotten forever. Let him rot in prison in solitary for the rest of his life.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Get rid of the F-ing GUNS, for Christ's sake!
I'm afraid my sympathy for these events in the USA is exhausted. The remedy is obvious. I'm sorry, but there we are.
Ashoka
श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
Trust me, there are many of us who want to pass stricter gun laws, or even remove them from public use.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
But I need my gun. I can't get it up without one.
Ashoka
श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
That sounds like a you problem...
(If it isn't obvious I'm being sarcastic lol)
Damn
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
or worse.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
Not again. May the victims RIP. Colorado Springs is known as the evangelical capital of the west. Very conservative.
I note that the club itself is calling it a "hate crime," already, but that really seems premature to me. We don't know what the perp's motivation was, and it seems to me there are many possibilities. I think we need to wait a bit before we start recommending anything -- including punishments.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Yes, it's incredibly sad. Yet we still have homophobia on this forum, and obviously, in the world. As another poster said, we don't know for sure the motives here ... yet, but one wonders how many hate filled bigots out there are secretly cheering this story.
We Never Know
No Slack
Sad for all.
The guy was supposedly arrested last year for a bomb threat. Someone dropped the ball if he was allowed to get a weapon.
One of the real tragedies -- and this one I think I can state with some accuracy -- is that the efforts of the Republican party to turn anything LGBTQ into a "common enemy of the people" is a very real contributor to this and other recent tragic events.
I hate to say it, but Hitler did this with the Jews (and also gays and Gypsies) to great effect. And there are of course other examples throughout history.
You know, unity among humans depends on whether we have (or perceive we have) enemies. When times are good, we are mostly not concerned with everyone around us, nor do we spend much time making nice -- we prefer the company of our own family or local group. But when there's an enemy to face, well then, we must come together.
Think about it -- people in Britain prior to WWII weren't noticeably social with people the travelled with on the bus or the tube. But during the blitz, they certainly were -- "we're all in this together" became the mantra. Demagogues learn how to use this feature of our human nature to enhance their own power.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
So this 22 year old dude who threatened his mom with a bomb and other weapons last year is able to get a gun and kill people this year. Oy.
Ugh....this is why I avoid any discussions about
gun regulation when current events raise passions.