Mass shooting at gay nightclub.

[Subduction Zone]

No. The remedy is proper recognition of mentally ill people.

That would help, but it would be rather expensive. I thought that you opposed government spending. I would think that a bit of reasonable gun control might help a lot at minimal cost to the tax payer.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Another young psychopath like I predicted.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That would help, but it would be rather expensive. I thought that you opposed government spending. I would think that a bit of reasonable gun control might help a lot at minimal cost to the tax payer.

Gun control won't stop a psychopath.

 

[Subduction Zone]

A question, what would reasonable gun control entail? I would think that like it or not some form of gun registration would be needed. A person would have to properly store guns on his property and immediately contact police if they were stolen. That is why guns would need to be registered so that they could be easily traced if used in a crime. People wo did not properly store their weapons in some sort of gun safe could be held liable to some extent for the crimes committed with them. I know that gun owners won't like this, but it would force them to take proper control of their weapons. it is getting to the point where it is either reasonable gun control or not gun ownership. I do not think that we have to go to the latter yet.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Gun control won't stop a psychopath.

Now you just refuted your earlier claim. And you are supporting the government getting rid of guns. In countries where guns are banned it is rather difficult for psychopaths to get guns.

Please pick a lane.

 

[metis]

Club Q Colorado shooting: Suspect held after five killed in attack at nightclub

Sad.

When will people learn that words and guns have consequences? Between all the hate speech and the proliferation of guns, what should we expect?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

No. The remedy is proper recognition of mentally ill people.

And...then what?

 

[Father Heathen]

Another young psychopath like I predicted.

Where do these psychopaths get their weapons and homophobic ideas from?

 

[Father Heathen]

Gun control won't stop a psychopath.

It will make them less effective and less effecient killers.

If it's solely mental health, why is this a uniquely American problem?

 

[Father Heathen]

When will people learn that words and guns have consequences? Between all the hate speech and the proliferation of guns, what should we expect?

Apparently this club has been targeted by conservatives lately for hosting drag shows. I wouldn't be surprised if it was another unhinged MAGA cultist pushed over the edge by propaganda.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Where do these psychopaths get their weapons and homophobic ideas from?

Often it's parents or grandparents.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Apparently this club has been targeted by conservatives lately for hosting drag shows. I wouldn't be surprised if it was another unhinged MAGA cultist pushed over the edge by propaganda.

Sadly, he has family ties to it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Now you just refuted your earlier claim. And you are supporting the government getting rid of guns. In countries where guns are banned it is rather difficult for psychopaths to get guns.

Please pick a lane.

Not really refuted. . Felons can't own guns either, and that law has been around quite awhile. Of course there is the matter of determining if a person is a psychopath or not.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And...then what?

Find out which mental conditions present a proven high risk by a person's actual past history with the law that's suggests such a person will actually harm someone by their own behaviors and legal issues.

Basically expanding ones police record to determine if that person has a history of being a loose cannon and violent.

Domestic violence, battery, etc.

That would be a compromise.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not really refuted. . Felons can't own guns either, and that law has been around quite awhile. Of course there is the matter of determining if a person is a psychopath or not.

You are not paying attention. That is because there is not enough gun control on legal owners. You need to ask yourself where felons get guns from and how that can be stopped. i need to remind you that this is not a problem in countries with gun control. The question is how far do you want it to go/ If you continue to support nothing you only add strength to the position of people that want to get rid of all guns.

Lett's see if you can do rational reasoning instead of emotional reasoning.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Find out which mental conditions present a proven high risk by a person's actual past history with the law that's suggests such a person will actually harm someone by their own behaviors and legal issues.

Basically expanding ones police record to determine if that person has a history of being a loose cannon and violent.

Domestic violence, battery, etc.

That would be a compromise.

Quite a few mass killers have no police record. Why not propose reasonable gun control? What is so wrong with that?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Find out which mental conditions present a proven high risk by a person's actual past history with the law that's suggests such a person will actually harm someone by their own behaviors and legal issues.

Basically expanding ones police record to determine if that person has a history of being a loose cannon and violent.

Domestic violence, battery, etc.

That would be a compromise.

And then do what? Presumably, restrict their access to firearms, correct?

 

[Shaul]

One of the real tragedies -- and this one I think I can state with some accuracy -- is that the efforts of the Republican party to turn anything LGBTQ into a "common enemy of the people" is a very real contributor to this and other recent tragic events.

I hate to say it, but Hitler did this with the Jews (and also gays and Gypsies) to great effect. And there are of course other examples throughout history.

You know, unity among humans depends on whether we have (or perceive we have) enemies. When times are good, we are mostly not concerned with everyone around us, nor do we spend much time making nice -- we prefer the company of our own family or local group. But when there's an enemy to face, well then, we must come together.

Think about it -- people in Britain prior to WWII weren't noticeably social with people the travelled with on the bus or the tube. But during the blitz, they certainly were -- "we're all in this together" became the mantra. Demagogues learn how to use this feature of our human nature to enhance their own power.

That is a baseless libel of Republicans. Republicans are not against the LGBTQ community. Stop lying.

 

[Shaul]

Apparently this club has been targeted by conservatives lately for hosting drag shows. I wouldn't be surprised if it was another unhinged MAGA cultist pushed over the edge by propaganda.

Rushing to judgment? Remember Occam's razor. There are many other more likely motives for this. Perhaps we could wait to find out instead of displaying biases.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That is a baseless libel of Republicans. Republicans are not against the LGBTQ community. Stop lying.

You should read the Texas State Republican Platform. They say out loud what many Republicans are afraid to say.