They can't. But the Bible states that the "heavens and the earth" were created long before plant life. (Genesis 1:1) The light of the existing Sun first reached earth's surface on creative Day 1.
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Math, who has more faith than evolutionist?
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They can't. But the Bible states that the "heavens and the earth" were created long before plant life. (Genesis 1:1) The light of the existing Sun first reached earth's surface on creative Day 1.
I thought you said the Bible never changes? Which is it?
Have people altered the Bible or is the Bible unchanging?
wa:do
Attempts to change the Bible were thwarted. The Bible has been attacked for centuries in various ways but, I believe, still stands as the Word of God.
the bible has never been accurate, it contains much well known mythology :slap:
your also passing on copmplete misinformation based on severe ignorance
the bible changed dramatically on EVERY PAGE WRITTTEN there has never been a book changed so much as the bible.
the book evolved for a thousand years, copies and redactions in the billions.
even what you call god evolved from pagan deities worshipped prior to Israelites existance.
you sir could be called out for purposely promoting misinformation :slap:
The evidence for or against the Bible's inspiration is available to anyone interested in examining it. What you or I claim should not determine what others believe. Each person should examine the evidence for themselves. If the Bible IS the word of God, as it claims to be, we would be cheating ourselves if we didn't benefit from it, at least in my opinion. (2 Timothy 3:16,17) And of course, I completely disagree with your claims that the true God 'evolved' from anything.
Origin: The beginning of something's existence. The point at which something comes into existence or from which it derives or is derived.
Synonyms: Inception, Source, Root.
Regardless of how much evolution tries to dodge the question, it's still the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
camanintx
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So why don't you clarify some things for me. When Mary Magdalene went to Jesus' tomb, was she alone? Was there a guard? Was the stone in place or not? What time of day was it? If the Bible can't get facts straight about the resurrection, what else did it get wrong?
Skwim
Veteran Member
In all its 250+ versions.:thud:
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
And yet, it's still in the Bible... so it's not unchanged.
I wonder what else may have been left in there from previous centuries.
Plus, there is a difference between being the "Word of God" and "The unchanging literal word of God".
Lets not forget that everyone seems to have a different version of the book... and each one changes something while still claiming to be the authentic or restored version.
wa:do
mycorrhiza
Well-Known Member
The theory of evolution doesn't deal with the origin of life. Just like geology doesn't deal with the origin of the Universe.
Evolution is true regardless of the origin of the very first lifeforms.
averageJOE
zombie
So you can pick up your bible right now and turn to the book of Enoch?
Math is a very big part of everything. Even God uses it such as 0 through 10. 0 represents Jesus where 1 represents Father and 2-8 are the saved souls from noah which make up the physical world in part. We are made of dust and within us are all types of material such as gold water metals etc. Same as our surroundings. Souls and Spirits work sort of the same but on different realms. No numbers or problems can work without 1.God
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Oh yay!
Now we're bringing in numerology.
What next? Craniometry?
Now we're bringing in numerology.
What next? Craniometry?
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Except the complex plane, the n-dimensional circle group, matrix algebra, tensor algebra...
Numerology doesn't mean much when the rest of math becomes apparent.
i don"t know what your talking about.
The Bible has been translated (either entirely or in part) in over 2,400 languages over a period of about 2,000 years. Obviously, language changes over time, as witness the KJV Bible of 1611 cannot be easily understood by english-speaking people today. Another reason for new translations of the Bible is the discovery of more ancient manuscripts such as the Dead Sea scroll of Isaiah, leading to better understanding of the ancient Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written. Still, by comparing these various versions of the Bible, it can be seen that any differences between them are minor, and do not change the Bible's message.
And frankly, some translations are made in attempts to adulterate the Word of God. Just one example, "The New Testament and Psalms: An Inclusive Version" refers to God, not as the Father, but as the Father-Mother. Many translations remove God's rightful Name from their translations. These vile practices are well-known and are examples of unsuccessful attempts to change God's Word. As Isaiah 40:8 affirms: "As for the word of our God it will last to time indefinite [forever, ASV]".
camanintx
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Then why doesn't John 20:1 mention anyone else?
Matthew thought it was worth mentioning but Mark, Luke and John don't. Since Mark and Luke say the women were planning to enter the tomb, don't you think the presence of guards would be worth mentioning?
Matthew 28:2 says the rock was rolled back by an angel who then talked to the women but John 20:2 says Mary went back to tell Simon Peter that the body was gone before two angels appeared.
Mark 16:1 says it was just after sunrise so there wouldn't have been any darkness.
I'm trying to illustrate some of the inconsistencies in your Bible.
jasonwill2
Well-Known Member
Your missing the point, the Theory of Evolution is not concerned with the origins of life. That is another area of science entirely.
Just as the origins of the Universe is for cosmology, stellar evolution is for astrophysics.
Genesis being a numerology allegory makes more sense then it being literal in my opinion.
Then why doesn't John 20:1 mention anyone else?
Try reading John 20:2 Mary says "and WE do not know where they have taken him
Matthew thought it was worth mentioning but Mark, Luke and John don't. Since Mark and Luke say the women were planning to enter the tomb, don't you think the presence of guards would be worth mentioning?
Where in the Bible does it say the women knew guards had been posted?
Matthew 28:2 says the rock was rolled back by an angel who then talked to the women but John 20:2 says Mary went back to tell Simon Peter that the body was gone before two angels appeared.
Mary ran to the disciples alone before the angels appeared to the other women Luke 24 3-5 Angels appeared to the other women after they were standing in the tomb wondering what happened
The angels and Jesus appeared to her after she went back
Mark 16:1 says it was just after sunrise so there wouldn't have been any darkness.
translation issue Revied Standard says "as the sun was rising"
Try reading John 20:2 Mary says "and WE do not know where they have taken him
Matthew thought it was worth mentioning but Mark, Luke and John don't. Since Mark and Luke say the women were planning to enter the tomb, don't you think the presence of guards would be worth mentioning?
Where in the Bible does it say the women knew guards had been posted?
Matthew 28:2 says the rock was rolled back by an angel who then talked to the women but John 20:2 says Mary went back to tell Simon Peter that the body was gone before two angels appeared.
Mary ran to the disciples alone before the angels appeared to the other women Luke 24 3-5 Angels appeared to the other women after they were standing in the tomb wondering what happened
The angels and Jesus appeared to her after she went back
Mark 16:1 says it was just after sunrise so there wouldn't have been any darkness.
translation issue Revied Standard says "as the sun was rising"
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camanintx
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If it was the angels that moved the rock, then Mary wouldn't have known that the body was missing until after they appeared, would she? And why does John say Mary ran to tell the disciples when Mark says they said nothing because they were afraid?