Since we are dealing with religious text, for example, any good scholar would try to understand any passage (verses, like Isaiah's sign for example) on how they connect to other parts of chapter. Once you understand the verses relation to the chapter, you will expand the search, to see if the verse in any way to connect to other chapter(s). For example, I can see how chapter 7 be connected to Isaiah 8. You don't go beyond the other those chapters, like other books, unless there are connection. Since Isaiah flourished in the time of Ahaz and that of Pekah, then we can safely follow up with another 2 books, like 2 Kings 15 (about Pekah) and 16 (about Ahaz) and the Chronicles; don't know which chapters in this book (Chronicles), but it is not really important, because this is just example of what I mean about scopes and limits.
Well, all you say is true assuming the Book does not contain unclear mysteries.
But according to Scriptures that is not what the Author said, because He said, it won't be possible to understand the mysteries of the Book neither by the Learned (scholar), and unlearned:
Isa.: 29:11-12:
"And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
The way I understand this as well as most interpreters of Bible is that, the Book that contains visions and Prophecies is sealed, and is veiled so the "Mysteries" in it won't be understood by anyone regardless of learning. "Cannot Read" within the context means cannot understand its meaning (not that actually cannot read).
Note I am not saying everything in it cannot be understood, but, there are certain signs and mysteries that no one can understand through learning, but only the Wise can understand. And "Wise" within the Book is the One that follows the Path of God and is sincere. And the only ones that are Wise and Sincere are True Prophets of God and chosen ones. They are the one that can understand and explain to others. And Mathew was one of them in my view.
Now, the question is "how the Book is sealed that even the learned cannot read?"
In my view it is sealed using "symbolic language", using "Parabols", using "Figures"
So, outwardly it appeares as if it is talking about "Honey", but it could be that "Honey" is the symbol for a Heveanly Word of God, that is recieved by the Prophet.
You, however, have based on some wild interpretations on some individual verses.
You are right about my interpretation appear wild.
You are inventing something that not really thee, basing something loosely on what Paul wrote about Jesus. You are making up links to those verses with this non-existent connection to the messiah. Your post 675, sounds more like tabloid trash writings than good investigative scholarship.
I don't mind that this is how you thought about my interpretation, and in fact you could be right that my interpretation is false, however, I would be interested a discussion, going through my interpretation and tell me why exactly it cannot be right, based on scriptures and logical argument.
All you said is you think, the things I said, are unrealated to the subject in Isa 7. But I explained a way of connection there, which are supported by other verses.
So, for example, when I said, "Honey" and "Butter" symbolically represent the spiritual food, that is the Word of God that makes one Wise, I said that Based on the fact that throughout the Bible you see examples of this. For example Jesus said:
John 6:33- "For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world."
Obviously by bread of God is meant the word of God. So, Likewise "Honey" and "butter" are the Word of God, that makes Him Wise.
And that's the thing. You're using sources that have no bearing at all with what happening in Isaiah 7 (or 8, or 2 Kings 15 & 16).
Well, you do realize that I have already explained 7 verses in a way that are connected to each other. It would be time consuming to expect me to go through all of them.
I was just demonstrating a good portion of it as you already agreed it is FOUR verses, and even i went further to SEVEN.
Having said that, I can interpret all the way to the end of chapter 7, and show how all of it is in essence is related to a new Revelation from God. In my next Post i will do that when I get some time.
This thread is about Matthew and Christians changing the meaning (or context) of a single verse (7:14). Why he didn't use the complete sign?
What do you mean by complete sign?
Note that there is no reason to think that the whole chapter is a sign. But could be that in it there is a sign.
If indeed the Lord had said He is giving a sign, and all the sudden He talked about a "Child", It is reasonable to say this "child" must be someone important, not just a regular child, you know what I mean?
