Mazda & Yahweh: the same god?

[IndigoChild5559]

I wandered onto a video 'related' to the one Mazdaian put up earlier (thank you, Mazdaian!) which argues that Ahura Mazda and Yahweh are actually the same god - using references from the Bible and historical texts as an explanation.

Does this argument have any weight? What do you think?

The Jewish belief in YHWH predates our exposure to Zoroastrianism.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

No.

^ this

 

[Aupmanyav]

I wandered onto a video 'related' to the one Mazdaian put up earlier (thank you, Mazdaian!) which argues that Ahura Mazda and Yahweh are actually the same god - using references from the Bible and historical texts as an explanation.

Does this argument have any weight? What do you think?

The word is 'Mazdayasneen' (those who follow the religion of Ahur Mazda as enunciated by Zoroaster, Zarathushtra).
Yes, Ahur Mazda is of the same category of Gods as Aten, YHWH, the Christian God or Allah. But these Gods sent different messengers to the world.
People use different scales, so the weight of the argument will depend on who is weighing it. I am a strong atheist, therefore, the weight of the argument is exactly zero or less (negative) for me.

Maybe the historical roots are from 'belief in One God', but any more recent depictions bear no resemblance whatsoever.

'Belief in God' is SECONDARY to the belief in messenger, Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Joseph Smith, Bahaollah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, etc.

Wow, St Augustine paints with a broad brush! Sikhi doesn't have roots in Abrahamic religion, so I'm not sure how he concludes they are 'worshipping the same God'.

Greetings, Treks. Sikhi (Sikhism) is monist as far as I know.

 

[Aupmanyav]

When it comes to the point of a superior creator, all cultural deities are of course culturally the same. since the creation is the same for all cultures.

There are religions which do not accept creation as anything other than an illusion, and so too birth and death. I hope you have heard the word 'maya' of Hinduism and 'anatta' or Buddhism.

Regarding your second paragraph, the same could be said of Ahura Mazda who was likely a deity in the early Indo-Aryan religion that would eventually evolve into Hinduism.

Ahur Mazda was a creation of Zoroaster. Before the time of Zoroaster, Indo-Iranian Aryans worshiped many Gods but none as Ahur Mazda.
The Indo-Iranian great Gods were Dyavuḥ/Dyaus (Zeus Pater) and Varuna (Ouranos).

"Dyauṣ stems from Proto-Indo-Iranian *dyā́wš, from the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) daylight-sky god *Dyēus, and is cognate with the Greek Διας - Zeus Patēr, Illyrian Dei-pátrous, or Latin Jupiter (from Old Latin Dies piter Djous patēr), stemming from the PIE Dyḗus ph₂tḗr ("Daylight-sky Father")."

Dyaus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"tan no vāto mayobhu vātu bheṣajaṃ tan mātā pṛthivī tatpitā dyauḥ;
tad ghrāvāṇaḥ somasuto mayobhuvastadaśvinā śṛṇutaṃ dhiṣṇyā yuvam."
(May the Wind waft to us that pleasant medicine, may Earth our Mother give it, and our Father Heaven (Sky, Dyauḥ);
And the joy-giving stones that press the Soma's juice. Aśvins, may ye, for whom our spirits long, hear this.)
Rig Veda: Rig-Veda Book 1: HYMN LXXXIX. Viśvedevas., among many other references.

mātā pṛthivī tatpitā dyauḥ: Mother Earth and Father Dyauḥ

 

[Aupmanyav]

Ahura Mazda (Lord Wise)

Ahura Mazda translates as 'God, the Great', like 'Constantine, the Great'. Sure, being the God, he should be wise.