Meaning can never be exhausted!

[A Vestigial Mote]

Even if they are the same, it is not against what the organization (Enzo Project) and the two contributers are trying to do. They are talking of similarities and not sameness of the universe and the brain.

"Enzo is a community-developed adaptive mesh refinement simulation code, designed for rich, multi-physics hydrodynamic astrophysical calculations."
The Enzo Project

And ultimately, they are talking about "quantitiative" similarities alone. Basically, if those images weren't photoshopped, let's say, or you could produce two REAL images that resembled one another to a significant degree, then THAT is all you have. You don't get to the point where you can state that "the universe works like a brain" - you can't say that. Based on those images, or even a quantitative comparison of measurements (things like distance between members, density of collections of matter/neurons, number of galaxies versus neurons, etc.) you do not get to a place where you can simply make inferences that the universe functions like a brain. That is simply not fair to anyone an unscrupulous person may want to go around trumping that up to. Any unsuspecting person who believes them, and doesn't bother to read (or comprehend) the actual things being said in the article that could be brought forward in support of the notions, is going to be bamboozled, and is possibly going to walk around spreading bad (i.e. unsupported) information themselves.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Enzo is not solely concerned with God, universe and brain. It is a group of technical people. It is not a religious group. They are intrested in algorithms. They are on Github - enzo-project.

"The Enzo adaptive mesh-refinement simulation code."

 

[TransmutingSoul]

you do not get to a place where you can simply make inferences that the universe functions like a brain.

It may take a while for science to decide upon this matters, but what I have found in various messages, given by various faiths, is that all creation is powered by Spirit. There is intelligence to the whole structure and contents.

I would like to add forests to the universe and brain, the underground structure of a forest is also connected.

“Some are calling it the ‘wood-wide web,’” says Wohlleben in German-accented English. “All the trees here, and in every forest that is not too damaged, are connected to each other through underground fungal networks. Trees share water and nutrients through the networks, and also use them to communicate. They send distress signals about drought and disease, for example, or insect attacks, and other trees alter their behavior when they receive these messages.”

Do Trees Talk to Each Other? | Science | Smithsonian Magazine

On the larger scale I consider the universe is also maintained through "communication", one could say a network that maintains the balance.

The same purpose for our brain that controls the balance of our body, is reflected in forrests and universes and the entire structure.

Regards Tony

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

It may take a while for science to decide upon this matters, but what I have found in various messages, given by various faiths, is that all creation is powered by Spirit. There is intelligence to the whole structure and contents.

I would like to add forests to the universe and brain, the underground structure of a forest is also connected.

“Some are calling it the ‘wood-wide web,’” says Wohlleben in German-accented English. “All the trees here, and in every forest that is not too damaged, are connected to each other through underground fungal networks. Trees share water and nutrients through the networks, and also use them to communicate. They send distress signals about drought and disease, for example, or insect attacks, and other trees alter their behavior when they receive these messages.”

Do Trees Talk to Each Other? | Science | Smithsonian Magazine

On the larger scale I consider the universe is also maintained through "communication", one could say a network that maintains the balance.

The same purpose for our brain that controls the balance of our body, is reflected in forrests and universes and the entire structure.

Regards Tony

I very strongly believe that much of what you said... is poop. Just think - you even admitted yourself that you "do not know the science." Perhaps you should learn before you start talking about it so much? I mean, doesn't that only make sense? I don't do as you do - that is, I don't speak on subjects I know very little about. I just don't. It isn't a very pragmatic thing to do, honestly.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I very strongly believe that much of what you said... is poop. Just think - you even admitted yourself that you "do not know the science." Perhaps you should learn before you start talking about it so much? I mean, doesn't that only make sense? I don't do as you do - that is, I don't speak on subjects I know very little about. I just don't. It isn't a very pragmatic thing to do, honestly.

You can look at it that way if you wish, but we can also consider it in another frame of reference. In the end, good science comes from nature, in religious writings we see nature comes from the Spirit or Word of God.

As such a study of nature can give us meanings in science and also give us meanings of faith.

We can now consider that the meanings can be interchangeable.

I offer there is a good example of this. Abdul'baha the son of Baha’u’llah was never schooled in science, but he gave talks to scientists and students of science that were well received and well reviewed.

All the best, Regards Tony

 

[Aupmanyav]

That Rational thought needs to be guided, it needs education to rise to our full potential.

You mean rational thoughts should be misguided into irrationality. Otherwise rational thoughts can find their own way. Are rational thoughts a danger to you?

Abdul'baha the son of Baha’u’llah was never schooled in science, but he gave talks to scientists and students of science that were well received and well reviewed.

It comes across very clearly that Bahaollah and Abdul Baha (as you mention now), had no schooling in science. How well it was received is not indicated by newspaper reports, which you do not cite here. Who knows if the scientists and students later in pubs and restaurants had a good laugh reflecting on the statements of an old Iranian who had no schooling in science (Abdul Baha was 66 yrs old in 1910 when he toured West) .

 

[TransmutingSoul]

You mean rational thoughts should be misguided into irrationality. Otherwise rational thoughts can find their own way. Are rational thoughts a danger to you?It comes across very clearly that Bahaollah and Abdul Baha (as you mention now), had no schooling in science. How well it was received is not indicated by newspaper reports, which you do not cite here. Who knows if the scientists and students later in pubs and restaurants had a good laugh reflecting on the statements of an old Iranian who had no schooling in science (Abdul Baha was 66 yrs old in 1910 when he toured West) .

There are newspaper reports. They may not be available on the net, but there are books that have all the press releases recorded.

It is quite amazing that an Iran prisoner, with no schooling, while in Paris, England and America was invited to talk in Churches, Synagogues, Philanthropic Societies and Universities. A translator was used.

All those talks were recorded and reported in the press.

Regards Tony

 

[Aupmanyav]

It is quite amazing that an Iran prisoner, with no schooling, while in Paris, England and America was invited to talk in Churches, Synagogues, Philanthropic Societies and Universities. A translator was used.

Only his father was in jail for four months. In Accra, they were detainees and not prisoners. They had a whole barrack for themselves.
Many people talk but they do not always talk sense.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Only his father was in jail for four months. In Accra, they were detainees and not prisoners. They had a whole barrack for themselves.
Many people talk but they do not always talk sense.

More research needed, much more to that story.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

RF has taught me much about my own faith and about the bounty of Words. One cannot learn the wisdom in them until one starts using them as they were intended.

It is recorded in the Baha'i Writings that argument will produce no fruits. I have been shown the wisdom of these words by using them in a way that was not fruitful on RF.

When we see the need of any change in others, it is most likely it is our own self that needs to change.

Past mistakes cannot be undone, but we can learn from them.

I wonder if I can change to the extent Baha'u'llah asked of me? One can only try and little by little, day by day, become a better person.

I may post in debates, but I am not after debate, but an exchange of ideas. Maybe I can listen more to others words? One step forward, a couple back!

Regards Tony