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Men and Women

mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Kfox said:
It is my understanding transgenderism is based on your thoughts, not your reality.
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Your understanding as understandimg is not reality, it is your thoughts. So that sentence of yours is not relevant according to itself and amounts to a selfrefering contradiction.
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Kfox said:
All diseases, deformities, and afflictions are within the realm of human variation; would you agree?
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Well, the problem is that the understanding of when all those are that, is based in part on your thoughts and not reality.
I have an university level book on my bookshelf about how in the end not normal changes over time, even in science.
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Kfox said:
So each person may have a different definition of what it means to be a woman? So according to you, if I have a stereotype that says women should not work outside the house once she has children, am I justified in proclaiming any biological female with kids working outside the house is no longer a woman?
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Well, is neurodiversity a fact, or are all other versions of undetstanding than yours abnormal and need treatment?
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Kfox said:
Is it more to it than their thoughts and feelings?

I think they are misguided.
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Kfox said:
It is my understanding transgenderism is based on your thoughts, not your reality.
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So the first post doesn't live up to the second one.

Now I am going to play your game of not normal. I don't really mean it, but I will show you how it works when applied to you.

You have a disorder, because you don't reflect over that you think, when you make your rule about thinking and reality. Therefore you need medical treatment to become normal.
Do you understand now the problem with not normal. It has no objective real true referent, it is a case of how a given person think.
And that can be turned aganist you, because I think you are not normal, and thus that is in reality as a real thing with truth independet of my thoughts and feelings. The problem is that it is not, just as you think they are misguided.
 
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Kfox

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mikkel_the_dane said:
Your understanding as understandimg is not reality, it is your thoughts. So that sentence of yours is not relevant according to itself and amounts to a selfrefering contradiction.
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It's my reality. IOW my opinion
mikkel_the_dane said:
Well, the problem is that the understanding of when all those are that, is based in part on your thoughts and not reality.
I have an university level book on my bookshelf about how in the end not normal changes over time, even in science.
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Again' my opinion
mikkel_the_dane said:
Well, is neurodiversity a fact, or are all other versions of undetstanding than yours abnormal and need treatment?
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The problem with your replies is you take examples where people are asking for my opinion, I give it; then you reply as if I am stating objective, provable facts. If these people wanted provable facts, they can use google. My opinions are my own, and I give them when asked.
 
K

Kfox

Well-Known Member
mikkel_the_dane said:
So the first post doesn't live up to the second one.

Now I am going to play your game of not normal. I don't really mean it, but I will show you how it works when applied to you.

You have a disorder, because you don't reflect over that you think, when you make your rule about thinking and reality. Therefore you need medical treatment to become normal.
Do you understand now the problem with not normal. It has no objective real true referent, it is a case of how a given person think.
And that can be turned aganist you, because I think you are not normal, and thus that is in reality as a real thing with truth independet of my thoughts and feelings. The problem is that it is not, just as you think they are misguided.
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the problem with your post is I was responding to people who were looking for my opinion on a specific issue, so I gave my OPINION. Last time I checked, nobody asked for your opinion on whether I am normal or not, that's why your entire argument fails.
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Kfox said:
It's my reality. IOW my opinion

Again' my opinion

The problem with your replies is you take examples where people are asking for my opinion, I give it; then you reply as if I am stating objective, provable facts. If these people wanted provable facts, they can use google. My opinions are my own, and I give them when asked.
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Well, gender is the same; i.e. an opinion. That is the point. It is just another opinion and reality.
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Kfox said:
the problem with your post is I was responding to people who were looking for my opinion on a specific issue, so I gave my OPINION. Last time I checked, nobody asked for your opinion on whether I am normal or not, that's why your entire argument fails.
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Normal is an opinion in the end. You just have a different one that mine. So how do you know that I am misguided or is that not about me, but rather your opinion.
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Kfox said:
Just because you said it doesn't make it so. Provide evidence that what I said to that person was not the truth.
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So truth can be based on thinking. So how a person thinks about gender, is what makes that true, a real thing and in realty? Is that it?
 
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Kfox

Well-Known Member
mikkel_the_dane said:
Normal is an opinion in the end. You just have a different one that mine. So how do you know that I am misguided or is that not about me, but rather your opinion.
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When I said I believe such a person is misguided, does that sound like an opinion? Or a fact!
 
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