Mickiel's proof of God.

[mickiel]

Well, no need to be jealous of us.....we don't mind sharing...

I hold absolutely no jealously for you. Its an interesting study.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

In Numbers 20:14-17, the bible mentions a city called " Petra", the Red Rose city, half as old as time. Leaving Kadesh-barnea, Moses sought passage through the mountians of Seir, the land of the Edomites. One of the citys in Seir was " Selah", now called Petra. Complettely surrounded by rock mountians, its only entrance is a narrow gorge called the " Siq", meaning sick, which is just about two miles long. Its one of the most rugged places on earth, to get there, one must walk or ride by horseback.

The city was hewn from the facings of the rocky mountiansides, and the bible describes this city. Archaeologist have found this great biblical city, I have pictures of it. Still yet another real live proof of the bibles accurate historical and geographic value.

Peace.

 

[Tristesse]

Evolution is something every Atheist would grab to place in their shopping cart of trying to disprove God. Proof is an Atheist backbone, they hindge everything on it, challenge everything with it. Although evolution remains a theory, the zeal of Atheist claims it to be a proven fact.

And I want to examine that hipporacy.

Peace.

I wouldn't need evolution to validate my atheism. You say theory as if it were a bad thing. In the scientific community a theory is quite an achievement.

 

[Commoner]

I wouldn't need evolution to validate my atheism. You say theory as if it were a bad thing. In the scientific community a theory is quite an achievement.

To add to that - the theory of evolution is, in fact, a theory, a description of the observed fact of evolution, just as we have a theory of gravity which describes the observed fact of gravity. Currently, the theory of evolution is on much firmer ground than the theory of gravity. So to reiterate - the theory of evolution comprises of all our current knowledge of the observed fact of evolution.

Neither gravity or evolution are in question any more than China existing is in question. Mickiel, we did not come from apes - we are apes. Ask your god to explain that to you, or look in the mirror.

 

[rojse]

In Numbers 20:14-17, the bible mentions a city called " Petra", the Red Rose city, half as old as time. Leaving Kadesh-barnea, Moses sought passage through the mountians of Seir, the land of the Edomites. One of the citys in Seir was " Selah", now called Petra. Complettely surrounded by rock mountians, its only entrance is a narrow gorge called the " Siq", meaning sick, which is just about two miles long. Its one of the most rugged places on earth, to get there, one must walk or ride by horseback.

The city was hewn from the facings of the rocky mountiansides, and the bible describes this city. Archaeologist have found this great biblical city, I have pictures of it. Still yet another real live proof of the bibles accurate historical and geographic value.

Peace.

Wizard of Oz is set in Kansas, and we have evidence Kansas exists. True story too, right?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

So again...I'm getting the impression you really don't know very much about anything.

Evolution is something every Atheist would grab to place in their shopping cart of trying to disprove God.

Again, Evolution DOES NOT disprove gods. Atheist aren't the only ones who understand and accept it. Some theist understand, acknowledge and accept the theory. You have no understanding of the theory so it is easy to see why you don't accept it.

Proof is an Atheist backbone, they hindge everything on it, challenge everything with it.

So now you are displaying a complete lack of knowledge when it comes to Atheist. Proof is something for mathmatics. So by your reasoning...you should be accepting proof...(for mathmatics). What we do accept is evidence. When fantastical claims ("God is the creator of everything and nothing evolves") are made then it requires the one who claims this to present some evidence.

Although evolution remains a theory, the zeal of Atheist claims it to be a proven fact.

You know nothing of the scientific method. In the area of science "evidence" is what is examined and discussed and accepted. Since you don't know what a theory is in the area of science it clear to see why you don't understand the ToE. We don't "claim it to be a proven fact"....rather the evidence for evolution is strong....and stronger than the claim "God did it"....

And I want to examine that hipporacy.
Peace.

The hypocrisy is yours. You buck the ToE even though you've been given the evidence, which you refuse to examine thus showing you have, possibly, a complete lack of understanding of the theory. Here...start with the understanding of what theories are before you move on to getting and understanding of what the ToE says.

Theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Amill]

What God? I understand there are many interpitations of God, many variations comming from humans.

The God I believe in, well lets just say he is " The Unknown God." Because I certainly do not know him.

Peace.

Then how do you know that God created everything as is, instead of just creating the first life forms and letting them develop and evolve via natural processes? If you don't know god, why do you make assumptions about how he does things?

 

[mickiel]

Wizard of Oz is set in Kansas, and we have evidence Kansas exists. True story too, right?

Petra is there. live and in color, a main tourist attraction. Its real, not some Oz make believe. The bible referenced it, and its real. In my view then, the bible is a real historical reference.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

TNeither gravity or evolution are in question any more than China existing is in question. Mickiel, we did not come from apes - we are apes. Ask your god to explain that to you, or look in the mirror.

Look in the mirror and see an Ape. A human, looks into the mirror and sees an Ape. I have discussed the true nature of blindness many times, obviously not enough times. The seduction of the human mind is readily displayed in this persons belief that they are a monkey. Really believes that. That total seduction, the human mind of intellect, adhering itself to nonsense, is proof of a seducer that must exist. One that is very powerful. Able to lull the human mind into accepting its seduction , at full will. And then hold the nerve to be hippicritcal about it.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Then how do you know that God created everything as is, instead of just creating the first life forms and letting them develop and evolve via natural processes? If you don't know god, why do you make assumptions about how he does things?

Why not make assumptions? Scientist make them, entitle them theorys, and people believe them. Well I have my own theorys as well, and will continue to post them.

Peace.

 

[Tiberius]

Music is proof of creativity, and creativity cannot exist if there is a God, because God knows the future (omniscience), and if God knows the future, there can be no such thing as free creation.

Thus music is proof that God can't exist.

And I want to go into that...

 

[Tiberius]

Mickiel, you have ignored my last post. Your inability to respond to me shows me that your posiution is indefensible, proving that your claim that there is a God is incorrect.

And I want to go into that.

 

[Tiberius]

It is said that God doesn;t believe in atheists. However, atheists can be shown to exist, meaning God is wrong. Since God can't be wrong, he ceases to exist in order to avoid this mistake.

Thus, God can;'t exist.

And I want to go into that.

 

[mickiel]

After the capital of the northern kingdom was moved to Samaria, King Omri made Mesha, king of Moab, pay tribute to him. Part of the tribute was sheeps wool. Mesha was supposed to be a fictitious characther, and Moab was too barren ( the critics said) to graze sheep. In 1868, there was discovered in the city of Diban ( in Moab) what is called the " Moabite Stone". This inscribed object is four feet high, two feet wide, and 14 inches thick. A part of the record says;" I , Mesha, king of Moab, made this monument to Chemosh ( god of Moab) to commerate my deleverance from Israel... Omri, king of Israel oppressed Moab and his son ( Ahab) after him. I warred against their cities, devoted the spoil to Chemosh, and in Beth-Diblathaim sheep raisers I placed."

This " Dead Stone" confirms 2 Kings 3:4-5. Not only does it prove that Mesha was not a fictitious characther, it lends support that sections of Moab were sufficently fertile for rasing sheep to produce wool as tribute to King Omri.

And this is the kind of proof that research can give.

Peace.

 

[Commoner]

Look in the mirror and see an Ape. A human, looks into the mirror and sees an Ape. I have discussed the true nature of blindness many times, obviously not enough times. The seduction of the human mind is readily displayed in this persons belief that they are a monkey. Really believes that. That total seduction, the human mind of intellect, adhering itself to nonsense, is proof of a seducer that must exist. One that is very powerful. Able to lull the human mind into accepting its seduction , at full will. And then hold the nerve to be hippicritcal about it.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

You don't even have a basic understanding of the things you're talking about, otherwise you would not have equated apes to monkeys.

Maybe you should go into that...or a library?

 

[mickiel]

Well yes, Music is all of that you stated, I agree, but it has to have an orgin. The Universe is not the orgin of Music, but it is a thumbprint of a creator, and Music is a
Vocal wavelength that originates from that Creator. Sound comes from God, although he hides himself, he has imprinted sound into the consciousness of humanity, and it was he who designed our vocal chords. It was God who designed our capacity for Music.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

Wavelength, an unseen dictator of reality. Wind, invisible, but yet its force is real. Because we cannot see God, does not mean he is not real. Don't fall into that error in thinking. God exist in a entirely different relm than we do. But he communicates with our world, through his power to surcharge the human consciousness with his influence. This is the orgin of music.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

There are two reasons why humans look into a mirror, to view themselves, and to prepare themselves for others to look at them. Both selfish intent at its root. Look in the mirror and see something that you are not, is extreme selfishness gone wild. Believe me, anyone who looks into a mirrior and sees an Ape, their consciousness is seared.

And I want to go into " Seared Consciousness."

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

The belief in there being no God, proves that it should be researched.

Proof, an internal organ of an Atheist, which marches to the beat of their selfish will, they simply do not " Want God to exist." They " Desire him to be false." This headlong dive into theory, proves that oppisition exist, because theory demands a sure result. The false concept of evolution is nowhere near a sure result. It baffles scientist. But yet, I have discovered that the false theory itself is proof of God. The coin of reality has two sides, one exist, but conversely so does the other, even if the human mind can only comprehend one side.

I see both sides, belief and unbelief, and both are part of the whole, and proves the existence of both.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

 

[Commoner]

There are two reasons why humans look into a mirror, to view themselves, and to prepare themselves for others to look at them. Both selfish intent at its root. Look in the mirror and see something that you are not, is extreme selfishness gone wild. Believe me, anyone who looks into a mirrior and sees an Ape, their consciousness is seared.

And I want to go into " Seared Consciousness."

Peace.

If you look into a mirror and fail to notice the similarities with other apes, I'm afraid it's you who's perception is flawed. And if you feel that you love yourself too much to be able to objectively assess your connection with other animals, look through your window and take a look at your neighbours. And do take the time to visit your local zoo, just to make sure you know what apes are.

I want you to go "into" a zoo, right after you get back from that library. Alright? :sarcastic

 

[Dirty Penguin]

This is not about Evolution but you are so fixated with it you can't stop talking about it. The sad fact is....you've shown you know nothing about the theory.

Proof, an internal organ of an Atheist, which marches to the beat of their selfish will, they simply do not " Want God to exist." They " Desire him to be false."

You have no idea what you're talking about. You have no clue what an atheist thinks, "believes" or wants...

This headlong dive into theory, proves that oppisition exist, because theory demands a sure result.

No we don't. When you make fantastical claims we require you to provide evidence. You clearly don't understand the difference between Proof and Evidence.

The false concept of evolution is nowhere near a sure result.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You're taking your own thread off topic...but so you know the ToE does not present itself as an absolute nor do scientist think it does. We know more now about the evolutionary process than we did when it was theorized long ago.....you can say..our knowledge of evolution has evolved...

It baffles scientist. But yet, I have discovered that the false theory itself is proof of God.

Sorry but this is stupid.

I see both sides, belief and unbelief, and both are part of the whole, and proves the existence of both.

No you don't and No it doesn't....