Mickiel's proof of God.

[mickiel]

Very good, you should write horoscopes:clap

I consider horoscopes a form of fantasy , and I prefer reality to fantasy. I prefer realism as opposed to sarcasm. It is said there is a thin line between reality and fantasy, and the human mind has crossed over that line , and many just live in their own worlds. The plain simple truth is not even seen by people , their just off into their own thing. And religion has cried wolf far too many times , they will no longer pay attention.

Their Love has grown cold. They think God is an imaginary being. The irony of it all. We were created by this being, now we think he is a figment of peoples imagination. We have drifted so far into ourselves, that we have lost our true identity. And we joke about this.

The whole head of man is sick, and his wholeheart faint. From the sole of his foot to his head, there is no soundness in him.

Peace.

 

[Zebulun]

The whole head of man is sick, and his wholeheart faint. From the sole of his foot to his head, there is no soundness in him.

Hence the reason we need Him so badly.

I must say, for someone with no religion you sure have argued beautifully for one and for that I must applaud you.

 

[mickiel]

Hence the reason we need Him so badly.

I must say, for someone with no religion you sure have argued beautifully for one and for that I must applaud you.

Well thank you, but I am not arguing for a religion, I am showing our lack of romance with God. Religion is just mans effort to reach God. I have discovered that God cannot be reached by mans effort, he just has to approach us, or we will continue to be without him.

I know what it is like to be without God in your life, I live without him now. I long for him, need him, ask for him, but yet he has not came to me. So I am longing for a romance with him, for him, and him alone to prove to me that he is, he exist, he will help me. Oh don't get me wrong, he substains me in this life, has cared for me, sawto it that my earthly needs are met. But I have also discovered that I have " Spiritual needs", and he has not given me much of that. He has given knowledge and understanding, and thats fine, but I have others needs that leave me barren.

I need faith, Love, Joy, gentleness, kindness, longsuffering and patience. I need strength and discipline, more understanding of his word, more wisdom concerning the things that consume this worlds belief. Basically, I need his Spirit, without which none of these things can be obtained. And he has denied me this.

But I no longer care how much he denys me, though I must do without him, I will never give up my belief in him. All my days I will continue to ask him to come into my life. In hope that he one day will.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

One of the componants of Romance is " Mystery." Love , or strong emotion , or growing feelings, often causes people to think and do strange things. Sometimes violent things. Often foolish things. Or, often honorable things. Romance can be strange and unexplainable. For example: God creates humanity, out of Love. He allows humans to create civilizations and lets them grow. We just naturally grow toward evil, and he sends his son to earth, again out of Love. We kill his son, then God sort of disapears from humanity for the last 2,000 years. Its kind of a mystery to me.

He assures that the bible survives and gives humanity a written message that he will return. Really strange, and this is one reason why so many do not believe in God, have given up on him as fokelore or fantasy. You really can't blame them, its not like God has continually reinforced his existence to humanity. God has shown a definte habit of only dealing with either a small group of people, or just a few prophets. So there is defintely mystery to God, things hard to figure. And I want to go into what that does to a relationship.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

Mystery is never good for a relationship, thus we all are reduced to longing for our creator.

Peace.

 

[CarlinKnew]

I consider horoscopes a form of fantasy

Exactly, that's what you're best at writing. You should start your own little fantasy blog where you can continue what you're doing here: patting yourself on the back as if you know some great truth about god, when in reality all you're doing is projecting your own spiritual situation onto the rest of humanity. The title of this thread should be, "Allow me to indulge myself in textual masturbation."

 

[mickiel]

Exactly, that's what you're best at writing. You should start your own little fantasy blog where you can continue what you're doing here: patting yourself on the back as if you know some great truth about god, when in reality all you're doing is projecting your own spiritual situation onto the rest of humanity. The title of this thread should be, "Allow me to indulge myself in textual masturbation."

I don't pat myself on the back, I don't know where you see me doing that. I do not lift myself up, I do not try to come on in a manner which lifts self up. I have consistantly claimed that I do not know God, do not have his Spirit, and I have made no claims of knowing some great truth. So these accusations your talking about, are your own observations, but they are not true. I have no spiritual situation, I am not spiritual, I am carnal. I am a sinner and I have not progressed beyond that.

I don't know where your getting your evaluation of me from, but I consider it useless and deceptive, as I do anything you have said to me.

Peace.

 

[blackout]

I am ALL woman honey.

And I am as non Romantic as they get.

Though I love with Power & Passion.

 

[mickiel]

I am ALL woman honey.

And I am as non Romantic as they get.

Though I love with Power & Passion.

Well any woman who is not romantic, is not for me. In relations between a man and a woman, power and passion is useless without romance. But I do see more and more women like yourself, having no romance at all. This world has choked it out of them, drained them to dry, some of them are acting more like men.

And thats the target of evil, to rid this world of love. It targets females and looks to deaden their hearts, harden their hearts, make them as non romantic as they can and drain this world of Love. Its obvious to me, I have been with many women in my life, many women, and I know how a romance with a woman can be. There is nothing like it, its so rewarding. So much to learn and glean from it.

And I may as well go into that.

Peace.

 

[blackout]

Well any woman who is not romantic, is not for me. In relations between a man and a woman, power and passion is useless without romance. But I do see more and more women like yourself, having no romance at all. This world has choked it out of them, drained them to dry, some of them are acting more like men.

And thats the target of evil, to rid this world of love. It targets females and looks to deaden their hearts, harden their hearts, make them as non romantic as they can and drain this world of Love. Its obvious to me, I have been with many women in my life, many women, and I know how a romance with a woman can be. There is nothing like it, its so rewarding. So much to learn and glean from it.

And I may as well go into that.

Peace.

Honey, I LOVE very deeply.
You could not know a woman who loves from depths of source
more deeply than I do. And that is the truth.
You think non-romantics have deadened hearts? lol
Romance is NO indicator of love.
Romance is only an indicator of romance.

and...What does it mean to "act like a man" anyway?

Religion once drained and choked me of mySelf it is true.

But I am no longer drained or choked of anything.
I am a full cistern.... and a breather of fresh air.

 

[blackout]

Oh and I also extend the depths of my love to the 'fairer' sex.

 

[Smoke]

They cling, they embrace, they protect and support, its just impressive. I myself have never really Loved a woman, but I have had many Love me.

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And let me tell you somethingelse that is even more impressive to me. This " Romance" that so many have with God. I mean so many people Love God, yet have never seen him or can prove he is real. But thousands upon thousands hardcore believe in him. Its very impressive to me. I don't agree with their religious interpitastions of God, nor their doctrines, but their devotion to God is certainly impressive.

I think clinging, embracing, protecting and supporting a man who doesn't love you is an excellent metaphor for the personal relationship people claim to have with god. This unrequited love, this imaginary romance, is not something I find impressive or beautiful.

 

[mickiel]

Oh and I also extend the depths of my love to the 'fairer' sex.

Well I don't think a woman would call a man the " Fairer sex", so I assume you mean you are lesbian. To each their own, I have no quarrel with lesbians or gays. When true romance is removed, we all just start loving anything we can get our hands on. Even ourselves. Romance is a precursor to Love, or it can be. Its the beginning of Love, and it is an indicator of Love.

Love can come without romance, espically in prearranged marriages. Lesbians or Gays can Love, heterualsexuals can Love. I think animals have a form of Love. But Listen, Gays, Lesbians, non Romance, all these are signs that we live without God. I have had hundreds of women and have Loved none of them. 3 Wives and Loved none of them. Love is something that needs to be placed in our hearts, or we will just choke out romance, choke out committment, choke out communication, choke out trust, just slowly choke out all the true ingredients that are needed.

Peace.

 

[mickiel]

I think clinging, embracing, protecting and supporting a man who doesn't love you is an excellent metaphor for the personal relationship people claim to have with god. This unrequited love, this imaginary romance, is not something I find impressive or beautiful.

God is not imaginary, I disagree with you there. But I agree with the metaphor, people are reaching out to God, but he has not came to earth, thats why Romance has become confusion. Thats why men are in romances with other men, women with women, men with children, and on and on it goes. Its really imaginary romance.

Peace.

 

[Smoke]

God is not imaginary, I disagree with you there. But I agree with the metaphor, people are reaching out to God, but he has not came to earth, thats why Romance has become confusion. Thats why men are in romances with other men, women with women, men with children, and on and on it goes. Its really imaginary romance.

A man who says he's had three wives and loved none of them is hardly in a position to pontificate on the relationships of others. Romance is nice, but it's not the real deal. Romance is fleeting and ephemeral; it comes and goes. Love endures.

To have an imaginary romance with an imaginary being is unfortunate; to hold it as one's highest ideal is unspeakably pathetic.

 

[mickiel]

A man who says he's had three wives and loved none of them is hardly in a position to pontificate on the relationships of others. Romance is nice, but it's not the real deal. Romance is fleeting and ephemeral; it comes and goes. Love endures.

To have an imaginary romance with an imaginary being is unfortunate; to hold it as one's highest ideal is unspeakably pathetic.

Its pathetic to your mind, but intelligence to my mind. True intellect cannot look at this world, this universe, and not see God. As far as my position to speak on Romance, do you think a queer Atheist is better suited to speak on it? Well lets see if your better suited to speak on it. Lets have it, give more of your views on Romance.

Peace.

 

[blackout]

This.....

Well any woman who is not romantic, is not for me. In relations between a man and a woman, power and passion is useless without romance. ................

is the only reason I referred to my Bisexuality.
I am Poly as well.
Though this has no bearing on the discussion I guess.

 

[mickiel]

This.....



is the only reason I referred to my Bisexuality.
I am Poly as well.
Though this has no bearing on the discussion I guess.

Oh so your bi-sexual, meaning you are attracted to both. I understand that, but what is Poly?

Peace.

 

[Smoke]

True intellect cannot look at this world, this universe, and not see God.

Of course, since there are people more intelligent than yourself who see no evidence of god, the hubris of the True Believer compels you to imagine that your intellect is somehow "truer" than theirs.

As far as my position to speak on Romance, do you think a queer Atheist is better suited to speak on it? Well lets see if your better suited to speak on it. Lets have it, give more of your views on Romance.

Yes, I think I probably am. Romance is a confluence of biochemistry, wishful thinking, and desire, and while that can be immensely interesting-- and while it makes romance an apt metaphor for certain kinds of religion -- romance is still much less to be desired than love.

 

[blackout]

Oh so your bi-sexual, meaning you are attracted to both. I understand that, but what is Poly?

Peace.

It means my love is Open and Wide.