Militant Atheism: Religion Or Political Affiliation?

[Nakosis]

I didn't say anything about the idiot in the OP. I don't know if I mentioned him somewhere in the thread, but I don't think of him as militant himself, more like a poster boy for the militant.

Ok, so who would be your example of a militant atheist? Stalin maybe?

 

[Augustus]

No, we have an issue with language that appears to make us violent.

It doesn't. You just create an imaginary problem by taking it excessively literally.

When he's described as a militant atheist, do you think people believe Richard Dawkins actually goes around chinning Christians?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Well, let's see . . . let me just take a look. There's one over there . . . timid creatures, indeed.

Im not good with sarcasm.

In your environment?
Online?
In the media?
Family? Friends?
In person observations?
Research?

 

[Revoltingest]

Im not good with sarcasm.

In your environment?
Online?
In the media?
Family? Friends?
In person observations?
Research?

Without real examples, we're trying to address a straw man.

 

[Earthling]

Yes, you see, Dawkins isn't political, at least not transparently political, so the first two are militant whereas Dawkins isn't. But that isn't to say that you have to be violent to be considered militant.

 

[exchemist]

I think . . . hmmm, wow . . . uh, look around? Here. On the forum?

I don't think that is fair actually. This is a forum for discussing religious ideas, so people are invited to express a view, and one would then expect them to fight their corner.

I have found few people here going in for the kind of intolerant, point-missing excoriation of religion that I have seen from people like Dawkins.

 

[exchemist]

mil·i·tant
/ˈmiləd(ə)nt/Submit
adjective
1.
combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause, and typically favoring extreme, violent, or confrontational methods.

Seems a stretch to call Dawkins a militant.

Not really. He has at times been really quite aggressive and confrontational in some of his attacks on religion, though he has calmed down as he has got older.

 

[QuestioningMind]

It's problematic in that there is such a stark contrast to the militant atheist and the average atheist on the street that finds the militant atheist somewhat embarrassing. The so called "militant" atheist is outspoken where the average atheist doesn't see the sense in directing that much attention on themselves. The average atheists doesn't bother themselves with the nonsensical doings of the believer. They don't care if the Nativity Scene is in the courtyard, or Christmas lights strung up at the local post office or whatever. 10 Commandments in the courthouse? Who cares? It's all corrupt nonsense anyway.

But if you talk to some of the militant atheists, once you get passed the bumper sticker slogans, billboard blasphemy, and incessant and inane ramblings about evolution, education and ecclesiastical society, it narrows down to politics.

They don't like people who vote opposite of them if those other people happen to believe in God. So, if they vote that its okay to kill babies if those babies are unwanted it pisses them off if someone believes in God and votes it isn't okay to kill babies. So the believers have no right to express their concern over the matter because they believe in God and this influences them? The whole of civilization is based upon such a belief.

It makes absolutely no sense. If one were to make a documentary on the militant atheists it would be like watching political convention. Nothing makes sense and everything seems like something it isn't.

If you want to redefine militant as anyone who strongly disagrees with you, so be it. However, it devalues the true meaning of militant.

 

[ChristineM]

It's problematic in that there is such a stark contrast to the militant atheist and the average atheist on the street that finds the militant atheist somewhat embarrassing. The so called "militant" atheist is outspoken where the average atheist doesn't see the sense in directing that much attention on themselves

Change a few words

It's problematic in that there is such a stark contrast to the fundimentalist Christian and the average christian on the street that finds the funny mental christian somewhat embarrassing. The so called "funny mental" christian is outspoken where the average christian quietly evangelises directing that much less attention on themselves

 

[Orbit]

I don't understand your reaction. You obviously wouldn't object to the term militant atheist unless you thought it was unfairly being applied to yourself. Do you object to the existence of militant atheism?

This is the biggest logical fallacy I've ever seen.

 

[ChristineM]

I think . . . hmmm, wow . . . uh, look around? Here. On the forum?

You mean the ones who object when you verbally abuse them? Ok, gotya

 

[Jose Fly]

Looks to me like @Earthling 's idea of a "militant atheist" is "an atheist who annoys me and has different political views than me".

IOW, it's a personal problem.

 

[sealchan]

It's problematic in that there is such a stark contrast to the militant atheist and the average atheist on the street that finds the militant atheist somewhat embarrassing. The so called "militant" atheist is outspoken where the average atheist doesn't see the sense in directing that much attention on themselves. The average atheists doesn't bother themselves with the nonsensical doings of the believer. They don't care if the Nativity Scene is in the courtyard, or Christmas lights strung up at the local post office or whatever. 10 Commandments in the courthouse? Who cares? It's all corrupt nonsense anyway.

But if you talk to some of the militant atheists, once you get passed the bumper sticker slogans, billboard blasphemy, and incessant and inane ramblings about evolution, education and ecclesiastical society, it narrows down to politics.

They don't like people who vote opposite of them if those other people happen to believe in God. So, if they vote that its okay to kill babies if those babies are unwanted it pisses them off if someone believes in God and votes it isn't okay to kill babies. So the believers have no right to express their concern over the matter because they believe in God and this influences them? The whole of civilization is based upon such a belief.

It makes absolutely no sense. If one were to make a documentary on the militant atheists it would be like watching political convention. Nothing makes sense and everything seems like something it isn't.

Fake news

 

[Earthling]

If you want to redefine militant as anyone who strongly disagrees with you, so be it. However, it devalues the true meaning of militant.

Militant is me without the politics. I'm outspoken and combative. Okay. Candy asses? Can you stop whining about everything?

 

[Earthling]

Change a few words

It's problematic in that there is such a stark contrast to the fundimentalist Christian and the average christian on the street that finds the funny mental christian somewhat embarrassing. The so called "funny mental" christian is outspoken where the average christian quietly evangelises directing that much less attention on themselves

That doesn't make any sense tome, but whatever floats your boat, 911.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Uh . . . okay . . . what exactly is the problem? You disagree with the term militant? Is that the problem?

Definition of militant: combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause, and typically favoring extreme, violent, or confrontational methods.

Definition of militant atheist: An atheist who has become insufferably elitest. Unlike a majority of most atheists, he has decided that it is his duty to rid the world of all religion. Ironically, he never shuts up about religion, putting him into the same level of irritation as most religious fundamentalists.

Wait...you think militant religious fundamentalists are insufferable talkers?

 

[Earthling]

Looks to me like @Earthling 's idea of a "militant atheist" is "an atheist who annoys me and has different political views than me".

IOW, it's a personal problem.

Oh, so you think it's a personal problem? I don't see it as personal I see it as political. Now, I'm apolitical so other than observing and sometimes commentating I don't care about politics. If you think about it, remove the believer vs. atheist and it's just political affiliation. God, the Bible, science, evolution all that bull**** has nothing to do with it. It's a world view.

 

[Earthling]

Wait...you think militant religious fundamentalists are insufferable talkers?

Who doesn't?

 

[Earthling]

This is the biggest logical fallacy I've ever seen.

Some of you guys make me want to puke. ****ing hell. What's wrong now?

 

[Earthling]

You mean the ones who object when you verbally abuse them? Ok, gotya

Wah! Wah! Wah!

None of you have anything to say.