I wasn't too focused on that part, but I am genuinely curious if drugs are a larger issue today than the 70s or before.
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Millennials are Selfish and Entitled...
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This is the huge problem that you are addressing. The large majority of tuition dollars isn't going towards the actual tuition. (That is, professor salaries, library resources, etc.) They are going into fancy stadiums, gym complexes, dining services, pent house suite dorms for upper classmen, etc. Universities are more worried about appearance in the eyes of the alumni than the financial damage sustained by their students.
Er... what university did you go to? That certainly isn't how it is at any of the ones I've attended, worked for, or visited.
Who made that quote?
Obviously, it's a stereotype to base a whole mass of people but if we want to seriously discuss this then we need more facts than this simple quote.
My family and I have the distinction of being a refugees. We had a very poor start in the US. Yes, we had to work long hours and do things we didn't want to do. But guess what, it all paid off.
I do have issues with those that consistently whine and do nothing about their own situation regardless of their generation or age. Now if you asked me who are the consistent whiners in my life, I would place it more on the younger folks. If they asked me how to succeed, I would say to make good decisions and work hard. Why? Because that is what I and the folks I know had to do in order to succeed and attain a stable income and life. That message shouldn't be lost or trivialized regardless of generation.
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I may be jaded, I went to a private university because I am a dumb-dumb.Er... what university did you go to? That certainly isn't how it is at any of the ones I've attended, worked for, or visited.
I did too for undergrad, and it definitely wasn't like that... lol. Pent house suite dorms? What? Those exist?
They do! I am an alum so I get their 5 year plan, thing. I kid you not, they have just broken ground on these multi-million dollar apartment complexes that house... 40 students each and are for upperclassmen ONLY. Meanwhile, underclassmen dorms leak and some don't have AC that works. I was not happy.I did too for undergrad, and it definitely wasn't like that... lol. Pent house suite dorms? What? Those exist?
I think it's over simplistic. There's plenty of blame to go around.
And they looked great on you, I'm sure!
Parachute pants? I remember those. .sadly. If only we could erase that from history.
Demonslayer
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I was super cool at the time! :/
I think Millenials are, on average, more selfish and entitled. But as others are saying, it wasn't them that made themselves this way. When I was growing up, between age say 6 and 15, it was about creating opportunities for play and then carrying that over to creating opportunities in adult life for income. I do think my generation was more selfish and entitled than the one before it, but again is about what that generation decided to create for us. I realize I may be off in left field, but I recall being able to run around entire neighborhood, get on a bike and go pretty much wherever I wanted, and learning to accept whatever sports teams I am on may lose. Losing sucks. The newer generation (since around 1990) seems to be under some mandate to only play in their yard, can't go outside of their block unless accompanied by an adult who is likely driving them, and plays tee ball games where no one can ever be seen as losing. I don't see how any of that is (or was) on them, the kids. When I grew up, there were about 5 different ways to listen to favorite music (i.e. 8-track tapes, cassettes, radio, vinyl), video games were just launching as an industry and computers were really cool cause you could have a hard drive that held a walloping 32 MB of data. It wasn't until I became an adult that the www came along and launched humanity into the Information Age. I think the technology that kids grow up with today is a lot like what The Jetsons had, but which seemed to me circa 1983 as probably 400 years into the future. Turns out, I was only off by 360 years. Now all those things I did as a kid, that were clearly leisurely pursuits are (among) the biggest companies on the planet.
All this helps me understand why the Millenials, or young adults today, appear to be even more entitled and selfish than when I and my peers were at their age.
Growing up during an actual Depression during a time when there were actual wars going on, strikes me as a) not fun and b) learning hard knocks about life before you even get to high school. Personally, I think I grew up at the best possible time in American history, but sure seems in my adult life like I'm witnessing the fall of the great American empire. Also seems more and more like:
The world is loaded,
It's lit to pop and nobody is gonna stop...
All this helps me understand why the Millenials, or young adults today, appear to be even more entitled and selfish than when I and my peers were at their age.
Growing up during an actual Depression during a time when there were actual wars going on, strikes me as a) not fun and b) learning hard knocks about life before you even get to high school. Personally, I think I grew up at the best possible time in American history, but sure seems in my adult life like I'm witnessing the fall of the great American empire. Also seems more and more like:
The world is loaded,
It's lit to pop and nobody is gonna stop...
Your right about the home ownership thing. No one really owns a home, we just pay rent to the government in the form of property taxes. It's just their way of reminding us that we really don't own a @$## thing.
Agree with a lot of this. I had an engineering degree from a no name college. It set me back a couple of years in term of salary compared to the folks from big schools but I still managed to get my foot in the door and hold down a position. The biggest thing, IMO, is getting your foot in the door. After 2-3 years of work, that degree starts to have little weight and one can start negotiating based on their interviews and referrals. So, I don't think it's worth the big tuition rates just to go to a big name college. This alone can set you way back by having too much debt before a stable income.
I do think home ownership is good though, but like everything else, it depends if the price is right. Folks still have to do their due diligence and crunch out numbers to back up their decisions.
Don't you own apartments? You seem to be doing very well now... Personally, my wife and I are thinking of investing into more real-estate to create or supplement our future income.
Yeah, me too. ...wait. I never wore any of those, no way, huh uh. Wait. Do I protest too much?
Not saying this to you directly but just generally adding to the topic.
It doesn't matter who made the world it is today. It is what it is. Stop focusing on things out of your control and just do what is needed for yourself. Stop the comparisons. There's always going to be folks in better or worst positions.
McBell
Unbound
They definitely feel entitled.
But then, what do you expect from a group of people who their whole school career they were rewarded for merely showing up?
Who were never taught that second place is the first loser?
Who were coddled because a word might hurt their feelings?
So I can understand why they feel all whiny once they get into the real world and find out that schools did the exact opposite of preparing them for the real world.
But they (the university) say the stadium is a profit center!
Not saying this to anyone in particular.
No one...
No one!
No way!
Gonna stop,
Now; go!
Aye, after a couple years experience, no employer/client cared where I went to school.
They wanted to know what I could do for them.
Problems with home ownership......
- Cost more than renting.
- High transfer cost to acquire & to sell. Need to move for job or other reason? It'll cost ya time & money.
- People tend to treat them as highly leveraged investments. This creates bubbles & crashes.
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I just do commercial properties & development lending now.
It's not going so well at the moment....many moments.
I'm surviving.