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Millennials, Please Just Shut Up

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
A millennial is someone who was born from around the 80s to 2000. At least, that's how I've always known it. Generation Y.
Nah. Those born in the mid-80s are the last to grow up without computers, internet, cellphones, and other modern technology stuff, as well as being born during the later part of the Cold War. The "MTV Generation" subset of Generation X is from the mid-70s to the mid-80s.
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
Nah. Those born in the mid-80s are the last to grow up without computers, internet, cellphones, and other modern technology stuff, as well as being born during the later part of the Cold War. The "MTV Generation" subset of Generation X is from the mid-70s to the mid-80s.

I didn't think so either, but I just saw an article in Newsweek that defined millennials as born between 1981 and 2000. Looks like Rival is correct, despite the fact that I still don't think of someone who is 35 years old as a millennial.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I didn't think so either, but I just saw an article in Newsweek that defined millennials as born between 1981 and 2000. Looks like Rival is correct, despite the fact that I still don't think of someone who is 35 years old as a millennial.
What makes Newsweek magazine an authority?
Tom
ETA ~I see Newsweek as roadkill by the side of the Information Highway ~
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
What makes Newsweek magazine an authority?
Tom
ETA ~I see Newsweek as roadkill by the side of the Information Highway ~

I don't think Newsweek is anything special, it could have been any magazine. I just saw the dates defined as 1981-2000 and was surprised, not saying Newsweek is the be all end all definition. Do you have a better source that says something different?
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
I don't think Newsweek is anything special, it could have been any magazine. I just saw the dates defined as 1981-2000 and was surprised, not saying Newsweek is the be all end all definition. Do you have a better source that says something different?
If you just google "generation X" and read some of the various articles, you will find several that talk about different dates for the generations. Newsweek is no better than most, and much worse than some. But before accepting something like that, you should probably take a look at some other sources.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I didn't think so either, but I just saw an article in Newsweek that defined millennials as born between 1981 and 2000. Looks like Rival is correct, despite the fact that I still don't think of someone who is 35 years old as a millennial.
There are many different ranges used, and no real consensus (the only generation that has a concrete definition is the Baby Boomers). My definition comes from the fact those born during the mid-80s grew up during what is pretty much now a technology stone age, as well as being old enough to remember the Cold War tensions and the fall of the Berlin Wall, a major event in history. Many people try to put those who didn't grow up with cell phones as well as those who did as both being Millennials, but the technology gap (more like a technology chasm) makes a huge difference between those born during the mid-80s and those born during even the early-90s when cell phones and computers became more common, and of course the world wide web and first internet sites weren't around until then either.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I saw one book in the library that put the birth years of the Millennials clear back into the 60s. There is no concrete definition or years, but really if you ask me the first thing I think of when I hear "Millennial" is all the technology that wasn't around when I was a kid. And not too mention that those who are generally considered Millennials are calling me old. Those in their 30s didn't even have texting as an option when they where kids, unlike those born in the mid 90s.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
well fair enough but we can't paint everyone with the same brush, it's also important to remember that a number of millennials voted for leave
I agree: painting everyone from the same "generation" is lazy and daft. This referendum has encouraged such behaviour from both "sides", unfortunately.
 

Tomorrows_Child

Active Member
I agree: painting everyone from the same "generation" is lazy and daft. This referendum has encouraged such behaviour from both "sides", unfortunately.

Agreed. There is an issue among us remainers (if we can call ourselves that) that we believe all leave voters were old, bitter white folk.
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
Agreed. There is an issue among us remainers (if we can call ourselves that) that we believe all leave voters were old, bitter white folk.
You left out "ignorant"! Since 87% of Britons are white, the last description could hardly be false! And since when has being white or old been a problem? This Brexit voter is both (and probably better educated than many of the Remain voters).
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
What happened in the UK convinces me even more that some state-related decisions and laws should just not be put up for popular vote and should instead be handled only by a body of experts and intellectuals, like Supreme Court justices.

And yes, I'm completely serious.

Serious about what?
Our Oxbridge qualified intellectual politicians took us into the Iraq war on lies, which destabilised the entire country.
Previously they armed Iraq because it suited them to see Iran hurt.
Then, later, they helped to destabilise Libya, and look what's happening there.
In fact, our intellectuals have caused an immense amount of damage in mostly every direction we might care to look.

There are discriminating bodies out there that believe that only high IQs should lead the world.
Please, please, let's give the 11+ failures a chance, because the intellectuals couldn't even fit a plug on a lamp, or so it seems.

A.... Yes.... I'm completely serious. :)
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Serious about what?
Our Oxbridge qualified intellectual politicians took us into the Iraq war on lies, which destabilised the entire country.
Previously they armed Iraq because it suited them to see Iran hurt.
Then, later, they helped to destabilise Libya, and look what's happening there.
In fact, our intellectuals have caused an immense amount of damage in mostly every direction we might care to look.

There are discriminating bodies out there that believe that only high IQs should lead the world.
Please, please, let's give the 11+ failures a chance, because the intellectuals couldn't even fit a plug on a lamp, or so it seems.

A.... Yes.... I'm completely serious. :)

Well, juxtapose that with the situation in the U.S., where the majority of voters voted for George W. Bush twice. A system primarily relying on intellectuals to make the majority of significant state decisions is bound to have flaws (like any other system), but if the intellectuals are chosen with sound criteria, I think that should work to produce less problems overall.

I don't know enough about the UK's involvement in the Iraq War to comment much on how the UK got involved in it, but what I do know is this: if you have a pure democracy and give people the freedom to vote on every major state-related issue, you are going to have disastrous effects like people's voting to leave the EU without even knowing what the EU really is or what leaving it entails—or, like in Egypt, people's electing Islamists into the parliament and presidency and then voting to approve a constitution that seriously included things like an article forbidding "insulting the prophets and messengers" and another stating that the main source on which state laws are based is Shari'a according to the interpretation of Sunni Islam.

Quite the fiasco, if you ask me.
 
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