Missouri Republicans vote 104-39 to reject open-carry amendment

[Curious George]

Wait, now you are contradicting yourself. Open carry is carrying a firearm openly anywhere. There are often legal limits to it. This law was to end open carry for youth. Now you are trying to claim that they could not hunt anywhere in public at anytime anyway. Hunting requires one to open carry. And hunting on state forests would be an example of open carry. They could still hunt at home, if the farm had critters.

I thought I had explained this in my post to @fantome profane…

let me try again:

prior to 2017 571.030.1(1)read:

1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:

(1) Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use; or…

after 1.1.2017 the law read:

1. A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons, except as otherwise provided by sections 571.101 to 571.121, if he or she knowingly:
(1) Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any area where firearms are restricted under section 571.107; or…

571.030

prior to 2017 individuals needed an exemption to carry concealed or about his person. After, the constitutional carry law, carrying concealed or about one’s person was only illegal if one carried in a particular area. Minors were not exempted from subdivision one prior to 2017 and after 2017, subdivision one no longer made it illegal to carry concealed or about one’s person unless one was carrying into an area where firearms were restricted.

I hope this clears up the issue.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I thought I had explained this in my post to @fantome profane…

let me try again:

prior to 2017 571.030.1(1)read:



after 1.1.2017 the law read:



571.030

prior to 2017 individuals needed an exemption to carry concealed or about his person. After, the constitutional carry law, carrying concealed or about one’s person was only illegal if one carried in a particular area. Minors were not exempted from subdivision one prior to 2017 and after 2017, subdivision one no longer made it illegal to carry concealed or about one’s person unless one was carrying into an area where firearms were restricted.

I hope this clears up the issue.

Sorry, but you did not explain anything either. Yes, concealed carry will still be illegal for people under nineteen. I was not talking about that. The problem is of open carry. Rifles always have to be open carry, and that was the topic. I am not worried about some kid hunting squirrels in the state or national forest. I am worried about some kid open carrying a rifle in the heart of a metropolis. There does not appear to be any laws against that.

Do you know of any laws stopping young kids for open carrying a rifle?

 

[Curious George]

Sorry, but you did not explain anything either. Yes, concealed carry will still be illegal for people under nineteen. I was not talking about that. The problem is of open carry. Rifles always have to be open carry, and that was the topic. I am not worried about some kid hunting squirrels in the state or national forest. I am worried about some kid open carrying a rifle in the heart of a metropolis. There does not appear to be any laws against that.

Do you know of any laws stopping young kids for open carrying a rifle?

Hmm, I will try again.

prior to 2017, concealed or open carry was illegal unless exempted. Minors were not exempted.

after 2017, concealed or open carry is illegal in specified areas. Minors are not exempted but the law no longer requires an exemption when not in one of the specified areas.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

My "exactly" wasn't an argument. Its an agreement to this "We do things to make a thing more safe but even if we do sometimes accidents happen anyway"

Which isn't an argument, nor an adequate response to my argument.

So, yeah, it makes no sense.

Again I think the 17 year old is responsible enough to go squirrel hunting on his own.

Okee doke. I think it's reasonable to have an adult supervising them in order to prevent potential accidents.

Btw, how many deaths happen from hunting on posted designated public land?

No idea. Maybe Google it?

I believe owning a grenade is illegal..
Again common sense.

Weird how you suddenly jump to "common sense" for certain rules, but other rules you obstinately question and refuse to understand the reason for.