Missouri station offering Russian state radio to listeners

[Father Heathen]

I call it as I see it. The infatuation with Trump here far outweighs my criticism by miles and dwarfs my post counts to the contrary.

Poor people... many tortured souls here.

The fact that those who've screamed the loudest about "fake news" have turned out to be the biggest distributors and consumers of it has nothing to do with any infatuation with Trump; he's but a failed turd floating in a vast swamp.

 

[Father Heathen]

I think if you value critical thinking, you can't really say that's an apples to apples comparison.

Elaborate.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The fact that those who've screamed the loudest about "fake news" have turned out to be the biggest distributors and consumers of it has nothing to do with any infatuation with Trump; he's but a failed turd floating in a vast swamp.

Like I said, you can't make a post without including Trump in it.

TDS

 

[F1fan]

Why can't it illustrate desire to understand the Russian
perspective? I consume news that I know has propaganda
(that I disagree with) because it illuminates why others
think as they do, eg, OAN. To know what Putin's government
tells Russians would be interesting.

I have heard clips of Russian broadcasts. It is consistent wit propaganda.

If someone opts to listen with an understanding that Russia presents propaganda, then a person won't take any of what is said truthfully. Effective propaganda can take several facts and then manipulate them into a biased perspective, so it is exceptionally time intensive to sift through what is verifiable and what is bogus. Most people don't have the free time and broad expertise to do this analysis. As a state news source it can control what the majority of citizen believe to be factual.

Few of us have time to sift through biased reporting, and it can be exhausting if it's not our job. This is why I prefer to use reputable and respected media sources so I don't have to sit there and question every statement. Reputable news sources do monitor Russian media and report on what is being said and how it is presenting false information.

I have watched FOX and OAN and my experience is very uncomfortable. I can see the breath of journalistic ethics, and hear biased phrasing in reports. I can't even stay focused on the content because I keep hearing problems in the presentation itself. This content is clearly designed to appeal to emotions to keep the audience excited and engaged. That is how propaganda works.

 

[Revoltingest]

I have heard clips of Russian broadcasts. It is consistent wit propaganda.

If someone opts to listen with an understanding that Russia presents propaganda, then a person won't take any of what is said truthfully. Effective propaganda can take several facts and then manipulate them into a biased perspective, so it is exceptionally time intensive to sift through what is verifiable and what is bogus. Most people don't have the free time and broad expertise to do this analysis. As a state news source it can control what the majority of citizen believe to be factual.

Few of us have time to sift through biased reporting, and it can be exhausting if it's not our job. This is why I prefer to use reputable and respected media sources so I don't have to sit there and question every statement. Reputable news sources do monitor Russian media and report on what is being said and how it is presenting false information.

I have watched FOX and OAN and my experience is very uncomfortable. I can see the breath of journalistic ethics, and hear biased phrasing in reports. I can't even stay focused on the content because I keep hearing problems in the presentation itself. This content is clearly designed to appeal to emotions to keep the audience excited and engaged. That is how propaganda works.

Even vaunted NPR has its propaganda.
One should be skeptical of all sources,
& consume a variety critically. Sure, some
are worse than others, but everyone has
an agenda.

 

[F1fan]

Like I said, you can't make a post without including Trump in it.

TDS

More like OTCN.

Ongoing Trump Corruption News.

Trump left America a huge legacy of conspiracy, fraud, and corruption that will take a few more years to resolve legally. Why couldn't Republicans just nominate an honorable candidate in 2016 like they did in 2008 and 2012? Electing a crook is never going to be a good idea. Have they learned their lesson?

 

[F1fan]

Even vaunted NPR has its propaganda.

Facts and an argument?

Or is objectivity now deemed propaganda?

 

[Revoltingest]

Facts and an argument?

Or is objectivity now deemed propaganda?

I've heard many false claims & biased reports on NPR.
I agree with some bias, eg, pro-LGBLT, & disagree with
others, eg, portraying conservatives as racist.
On glaring example I recall was reporting that Sarah
Palin claimed she could see Russia from her house.
She never did. But a Saturday Night Live comic
impersonator did.

 

[Wandering Monk]

I have heard clips of Russian broadcasts. It is consistent wit propaganda.

If someone opts to listen with an understanding that Russia presents propaganda, then a person won't take any of what is said truthfully. Effective propaganda can take several facts and then manipulate them into a biased perspective, so it is exceptionally time intensive to sift through what is verifiable and what is bogus. Most people don't have the free time and broad expertise to do this analysis. As a state news source it can control what the majority of citizen believe to be factual.

Few of us have time to sift through biased reporting, and it can be exhausting if it's not our job. This is why I prefer to use reputable and respected media sources so I don't have to sit there and question every statement. Reputable news sources do monitor Russian media and report on what is being said and how it is presenting false information.

I have watched FOX and OAN and my experience is very uncomfortable. I can see the breath of journalistic ethics, and hear biased phrasing in reports. I can't even stay focused on the content because I keep hearing problems in the presentation itself. This content is clearly designed to appeal to emotions to keep the audience excited and engaged. That is how propaganda works.

There are too many dipsh*ts on the right who are mouthing the propaganda coming out of Russia. They believe it is true.

 

[Twilight Hue]

More like OTCN.

Ongoing Trump Corruption News.

Trump left America a huge legacy of conspiracy, fraud, and corruption that will take a few more years to resolve legally. Why couldn't Republicans just nominate an honorable candidate in 2016 like they did in 2008 and 2012? Electing a crook is never going to be a good idea. Have they learned their lesson?

I don't disagree with that.

Sadly there are no existing candidates that meet that description. For either side of the aisle.

 

[F1fan]

I don't disagree with that.

Sadly there are no existing candidates that meet that description. For either side of the aisle.

I'm not aware of anyone expressing interest in 2024. Biden says he won't run again, which is good. The USA needs moderates for nominee. And people interested in ethical reforms to the election process.

 

[Revoltingest]

There are too many dipsh*ts on the right who are mouthing the propaganda coming out of Russia. They believe it is true.

I've also seen lefties on RF defending Putin's propaganda.
Authoritarianism & violent conquest aren't solely the
province of the left or right.
But woe unto a country that won't allow hearing the other
side. Yet even liberals here have advocated banning Fox.

 

[F1fan]

There are too many dipsh*ts on the right who are mouthing the propaganda coming out of Russia. They believe it is true.

I check in on Facebook a few times a week, and OMG. The nutters are coming out in droves. You can't even state a basic fact about the current state of affairs without immediate denials. An additional layer that adds to the sad state of affairs.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's not treason, but **** Russia's side of the story and damn anyone who insists we should listen to it amd consider it.
He's not standing up for free speech, he's just being an arse.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's not treason, but **** Russia's side of the story and damn anyone who insists we should listen to it amd consider it.
He's not standing up for free speech, he's just being an arse.

Should it be prohibited?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Should it be prohibited?

No, but we shouldn't pretend like their side is actually worth considering or this wanker is actually defending free speech.

 

[Revoltingest]

No, but we shouldn't pretend like their side is actually worth considering or this wanker is actually defending free speech.

How do you know it's pretense.
BTW, your side, the liberals & socialists,
have been defending the Putin perspective.
So it's wrong to make it solely a right wing thing.

 

[Stevicus]

It's a radio station. It's open information.

Remember GI Joe Hannah?

Vaguely. I remember "Hanoi Jane" Fonda, though. I also remember American protesters openly waving the Viet Cong flag.

That video was awful. Whoever came up with that stuff really needs to brush up on their technique and style.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Vaguely. I remember "Hanoi Jane" Fonda, though. I also remember American protesters openly waving the Viet Cong flag.

That video was awful. Whoever came up with that stuff really needs to brush up on their technique and style.

She was real and became a bit of a celebrity with American troops.


Hanoi Hannah - Wikipedia

 

[Shadow Wolf]

How do you know it's pretense.
BTW, your side, the liberals & socialists,
have been defending the Putin perspective.
So it's wrong to make it solely a right wing thing.

I haven't been defending Putin. And I'm not even involving Left or Right. I'm saying Russia can say whatever garbage it wants, it doesn't matter and isn't worth considering. Screw those guys, the Ukranians need to keep sending them home in body bags (and keep up the good work on making it dangerous for Russian senior military officials). And this wanker isn't defending free speech. He's using his right to air utter garbage. That's a regular thing in America.