Mitch McConnell freezes for the second time publicly:

[Subduction Zone]

To me it looked like a brain fart, where your memory does not automatically recall for you.

When I was young; childhood into my teens, I used to have a type of social anxiety disorder, years before it was popular in medical science. I was comfortable with being among people, but interaction with some strangers would trigger a switch in my brain, between talking and thinking, causing me to stay stuck in thinking, and become sort of temporarily mute.

Some people are stuck on talk mode; don't think, with that being annoying, but not considered a pathology. But being stuck in think mode in social situations, creates pregnant pauses, which can make people feel uncomfortable. The fear of the switch activated and it becoming uncomfortable, was the primary source of my anxiety. I was often worried about the switch shutting off my voice, at awkward times, when I wanted to say something. Maybe it was a type of self censor, to avoid saying what was unfiltered, on the top of my mind; arrogant or mean.

I can sort of see Mitch, having a switch moment, which is fine among his close friends who know him, but which can become awkward to those who are not used to this, from a politician, whose living depends on talk mode.

That was far too long to be a mere brain fart.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think its was...
1. The concussion
2. His age

Had he been 50 when he hit his head IMO the effects wouldn't have been like they are now.

And it is possible that his concussion occurred due to this sort of event. Having a TSI makes one very vulnerable if one is moving at the time. They may have the cause and effect backwards. There is no real way to tell. But at his age he does have to be more careful.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I showed you a video of her at her job, a simple vote, she was very confused and had to be told what to do, just vote aye(twice).

Which on itself is nothing. That sometimes just happens to people for various reasons (like a brain fart). A single incident is not enough to establish long term trends, and to focus on just one event comes of as playing into larger society's prejudice against the elderly.

Your post was about how she does her job.

Uh huh. And you following up with your claims was very slow and seemingly reluctant. Others gave more information than you, and you kept on providing little until you finally decided to flesh out a proper argument and provide sources.

 

[We Never Know]

Which on itself is nothing. That sometimes just happens to people for various reasons (like a brain fart). A single incident is not enough to establish long term trends, and to focus on just one event comes of as playing into larger society's prejudice against the elderly.

Uh huh. And you following up with your claims was very slow and seemingly reluctant. Others gave more information than you, and you kept on providing little until you finally decided to flesh out a proper argument and provide sources.

"That sometimes just happens to people for various reasons (like a brain fart)"


Especially to a 90 year old who has had a run of series of public lapses in her cognitive abilities.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"That sometimes just happens to people for various reasons (like a brain fart)"


Especially to a 90 year old who has had a run of series of public lapses in her cognitive abilities.

Not making me feel confident you understood my point.

 

[We Never Know]

Not making me feel confident you understood my point.

You're not making me feel confident that you understand that her age effects her job.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You're not making me feel confident that you understand that her age effects her job.

Not inherently. My siblings grandfather did well in the stock market well into his 90s. "It's a pain in the ***," the 93 year old German told me, "but it makes me money."
As I've said before, in regards to being President, being fresh out of youth is no more an automatic indication you can do the job well than being very old is an automatic indication you can't.

 

[We Never Know]

Not inherently. My siblings grandfather did well in the stock market well into his 90s. "It's a pain in the ***," a 93 year old German told me, "but it makes me money."
As I've said before, in regards to being President, being fresh out of youth is no more an automatic indication you can do the job well than being very old is an automatic indication you can't.

We aren't talking about your grandfather in his 90's, we aren't talking about a 93 year old german, and we aren't talking about a young president.

I'm not saying they all are that way but some are

That video showed one of her lapses in cognitive abilities(confused, not sure what was going on and had to be told what to do) but you didn't want to accept it.
I have shown you in a video and another link, a couple others have shown you as well.
You may as well accept her age does affect her job.

Edit.... Just like Mitch, if he keeps freezing up it will affect his job.

 

[Subduction Zone]

We aren't talking about your grandfather in his 90's, we aren't talking about a 93 year old german, and we aren't talking about a young president.

I'm not saying they all are that way but some are

That video showed one of her lapses in cognitive abilities(confused, not sure what was going on and had to be told what to do) but you didn't want to accept it.
I have shown you in a video and another link, a couple others have shown you as well.
You may as well accept her age does affect her job.

Edit.... Just like Mitch, if he keeps freezing up it will affect his job.

You keep forgetting that was totally out of context. Without knowing what led up to that one cannot judge whether it was a lapse or just a misunderstanding. And her confusion was very short. Compare that to Mitch. You could see a good part of the press conference leading up to it, and then his prolonged confusion afterwards. The two are not very much alike at all.

You should have led with your strongest evidence, which both @Shadow Wolf and I acknowledged instead of your weakest evidence.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We aren't talking about your grandfather in his 90's, we aren't talking about a 93 year old german, and we aren't talking about a young president.

I didn't say he was mine, I said he was my siblings. It's called reading comprehension and I suggest you work on it.

We aren't talking about your grandfather in his 90's, we aren't talking about a 93 year old german, and we aren't talking about a young president.

I'm not saying they all are that way but some are

We are talking about the elderly, thus there is a need to demonstrate being in one's 90s is not an automatic indication of ability to perform, and provide the inverse that youth itself is no indication of ability to perform.

That video showed one of her lapses in cognitive abilities(confused, not sure what was going on and had to be told what to do) but you didn't want to accept it.
I have shown you in a video and another link, a couple others have shown you as well.
You may as well accept her age does affect her job.

Edit.... Just like Mitch, if he keeps freezing up it will affect his job.

It's the fact you spent several posts with nothing but a video of a single incident. That is not enough to establish a trend or that she has issues to be concerned with. I don't know this woman, I don't know her health, thus it's inappropriate for me to speculate based on one event.
We wouldn't even be having this conversation had you went with the fleshed post to begin with.

 

[We Never Know]

I didn't say he was mine, I said he was my siblings. It's called reading comprehension and I suggest you work on it.

We are talking about the elderly, thus there is a need to demonstrate being in one's 90s is not an automatic indication of ability to perform, and provide the inverse that youth itself is no indication of ability to perform.

It's the fact you spent several posts with nothing but a video of a single incident. That is not enough to establish a trend or that she has issues to be concerned with. I don't know this woman, I don't know her health, thus it's inappropriate for me to speculate based on one event.
We wouldn't even be having this conversation had you went with the fleshed post to begin with.

"I didn't say he was mine, I said he was my siblings. It's called reading comprehension and I suggest you work on it."

Yes you do. My siblings and I had the same grandpa. Many do.

We are talking about "a specific elderly person".

Blah blah blah is all I get out of the rest.

You are getting your boxers in a bunch but still no admission from you that her age does affect her job lol.

 

[Subduction Zone]

"I didn't say he was mine, I said he was my siblings. It's called reading comprehension and I suggest you work on it."

Yes you do. My siblings and I had the same grandpa. Most do.

We are talking about "a specific elderly person"

Blah blah blah is all I get out of the rest but still no admission from you her age does affect her job lol.

Okay, I can see how that is a reasonable conclusion. but an adopted person, for example, may not have the same relationship to one of his adoptive parents father that his non-adopted siblings may have. Maybe you both should take it a bit easier on that point.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"I didn't say he was mine, I said he was my siblings. It's called reading comprehension and I suggest you work on it."

Yes you do. My siblings and I had the same grandpa. Many do.

My siblings and I have different dads. This is why we ask instead of assume.

We are talking about "a specific elderly person".

Blah blah blah is all I get out of the rest.

You are getting your boxers in a bunch but still no admission from you that her age does affect her job lol.

It's called a "counter example." One example where it appears age has compromised ability in regards to performance, and another example of a cew years older still being capable.
Counter example. It's how debate works. Amd when the topic involves the elderly and ability then there will be examples of all positions held.

no admission from you that her age does affect her job lol.

The question isn't that age does (that starts way earlier than most people realize), that just happens it's a question of has it become a impediment that has an intolerably detrimental effect on performance.
And because youth is not an inherent indication someone can perform, this is why, for example, with things like driver's license we regularly test people's ability to drive rather than just yank them atva certain age.

 

[We Never Know]

My siblings and I have different dads. This is why we ask instead of assume.

It's called a "counter example." One example where it appears age has compromised ability in regards to performance, and another example of a cew years older still being capable.
Counter example. It's how debate works. Amd when the topic involves the elderly and ability then there will be examples of all positions held.

The question isn't that age does (that starts way earlier than most people realize), that just happens it's a question of has it become a impediment that has an intolerably detrimental effect on performance.
And because youth is not an inherent indication someone can perform, this is why, for example, with things like driver's license we regularly test people's ability to drive rather than just yank them atva certain age.

"My siblings and I have different dads. This is why we ask instead of assume."

Which also means you and your siblings share a grandpa.

"It's called a "counter example." One example where it appears age has compromised ability in regards to performance, and another example of a cew years older still being capable.
Counter example. It's how debate works. Amd when the topic involves the elderly and ability then there will be examples of all positions held."

Its also called moving the goalposts. Trying to shift the convo off her to others elderly.

"The question isn't that age does (that starts way earlier than most people realize), that just happens it's a question of has it become a impediment that has an intolerably detrimental effect on performance. And because youth is not an inherent indication someone can perform, this is why, for example, with things like driver's license we regularly test people's ability to drive rather than just yank them atva certain age."

Still no admission lol

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Which also means you and your siblings share a grandpa.

Yup. Except I indicated it is one not shared.

Its also called moving the goalposts. Trying to shift the convo off her to others elderly.

Moving the goalposts - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Moving the goalposts (or shifting the goalposts) is a metaphor, derived from goal-based sports, that means to change the rule or criterion (goal) of a process or competition while it is still in progress, in such a way that the new goal offers one side an advantage or disadvantage.[1]

Nope, it's called a counter example.

Still no admission lol

There's nothing for me to "admit." Go ahead, put the hoop and next time you can pull it out and I'll tell you again it ain't happening.