Modern man like footprints found, evolution theory in doubt.

[LuisDantas]

I'm not here to change your faith. If you used a bit of logic, and some research, you would discover that your evolutionary belief, in main aspect, is very problematic.

It is a good thing that you do not want to change anyone's faith.

It is considerably less good that you refuse to accept reality.

 

[Jumi]

Don't pretend you or your pal understand. You don't. Scientists are a dime a dozen. Hire one in court like a lawyer to support one side of a case if you like.

You're the one here who has not displayed any level of understanding.

No belief in a same state past produced anything. Actual knowledge in this present nature and world is not at issue.

Science is actual knowledge of the world and it is demonstrably so.

The sciences of origins are the most inferior, demonic, unsupported nonsense in the history of man.

Perhaps you should first try to see what they are about, before making an uneducated judgment.

Present some here, and we will see. I'll hang them out to dry before you can say 'Wow am I totally blown out of the water'.
However normal your church might think it is to disbelieve Scripture, and embrace doctrines of devils with their whole heart mind and soul, that doesn't change the fact science doesn't know, and the bible is crystal clear on creation.

I don't think you understand what people are saying and I don't think you care enough about the truth to study the sciences yourself. You've presented nothing at all, no wow or anything. If you believe in your churches way of reading scripture, great. Just don't expect that what you think of as knowledge there is amazing to anyone outside of it.

 

[David T]

Homework for Fellow non-evolution deniers. Please provide good evidence based refutation of the OP. The best response will get the winner tag and other good ones will get "like" tags. Let the labor day weekend anthropology competition begin!

Crop circles are created by the same aliens that helped the egyptians build the pyranids. Creationism has zero to do with either the bible, god, or science its not even"christian" its nonsense that some christians believe in its not "christian" nor is it a requirement to be a christian. Btw lots of scientists have dumb ideas as well and they still function as scientists amazingly.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

We don't have words known to have come from any god. What we have are words attributed to a god, which are really evidence of nothing except that several somebodies are claiming that a god told them something long ago. We don't even have evidence that they believed what they wrote themselves. When you open the book and read it, you find evidence within that the god described within could not have existed. It's logically impossible by virtue of it having been ascribed mutually exclusive attributes like the famed married bachelor. Do you think that such a thing can exist? Of course not, not if we mean married and bachelor in the usual sense (not a bachelor married to his work, for example), and we mean in the same person at the same time. We also find evidence in the book that its authors knew no more about the world than their neighbors, further evidence that those are not the words of an entity with superhuman knowledge or even one with contemporary human knowledge.

Interesting comparison, but wrong. When you always view anything solely based upon your 5 senses, and those of others, you are wrong all the time.

Which sense did you think I relied on to make that argument? Smell? Touch? The argument was pure reason based on the Law of Noncontradiction.

Many physicists and cosmologists believe there are many many dimensions of which we are totally oblivious. Some believe that these dimensions, that are populated, exist in the very same space we occupy. One of those ignorant ancients, Paul, spoke of this when he described "powers, principalities, and prince's unseen"

Paul was speaking of Prince Albert in the can there. You can't see its powers and principalities until you open the can.

Hey - if you feel free to improvise ad lib with no support for your wild claims, I'll accept that as an invitation to do the same.

you are ignorant of the purpose of the Bible

No, you are. The Bible is a tool used to subjugate and exploit. That is its purpose.

I understand that that you might resent rational skeptics taking the same liberties and adopting the same authoritarian tone that you grant yourself, but I chose to indulge myself here and adopt the style of the faith based thinker. I hope you won't mind.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Crop circles are created by the same aliens that helped the egyptians build the pyranids.

Really? Which aliens might these be?

 

[dad1]

A hominin is not a man. It's one of a series of transitional species between ancient apes and man. Australopithecus like Lucy or Ardipithecus are hominins and the paper clearly says that these sets of prints were made by a even more primitive biped than Lucy. Like Graecopithecus, Sahelanthropus or Ororin or a species of similar sort that are known to live 6 million years ago. That is what the paper says. Footprints made by a very primitive biped, more primitive in its bipedal ability than later hominins like Lucy etc.

No such thing except in your evolution field of dreams. Yes there were various monkeys apes etc. You seem to be claiming it was one of these. Even if true, you need to more thsn double your timeframe from what used to be claimed!

 

[David T]

Really? Which aliens might these be?

According to the documentry star trek "first encounter" vulcans.

 

[SalixIncendium]

According to the documentry star trek "first encounter" vulcans.

Ahhhh, the Vulcans. Of course! I am soooo relieved that you didn't say Klingons because that would have been entirely illogical and just downright silly.

 

[dad1]

No, you are. The Bible is a tool used to subjugate and exploit. That is its purpose.

This is the blasphemy section of the Forum?

 

[SalixIncendium]

This is the blasphemy section of the Forum?

No. That's in another part of the forum. You've found your way to the "Deny Scientific Evidence In Favor of Positing Myth" section of the forum.

 

[Desert Snake]

No. That's in another part of the forum. You've found your way to the "Deny Scientific Evidence In Favor of Positing Myth" section of the forum.

What scientific evidence supports your listed religion?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

But you can't prove it

Not to somebody with a stake in not believing it. Proving is a cooperative effort. The student has to be sufficiently educated as well as willing to be convinced by a compelling argument to allow me to prove anything to him. Do you think that that describes you?

I also can't prove Pythagoras' theorem to an ant. Does than make it wrong?

Jesus disagrees with you.

Fortunately Quetzalcoatl, who has the power of veto over Jesus, agrees with me. I think that Athena does as well, but I'm less certain.

How do you think you're doing on this thread in your witness for Jesus? John 11:35

Do you think that you are you reaching the reason and evidence based thinkers with your wild, unsupported opinions, or perhaps confirming their belief that faith based thought is a mistake, sterile, and a dead end?

 

[SalixIncendium]

What scientific evidence supports your listed religion?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Nt in the bible.


Not in the bible.
The classification system of God is higher than science. How were bats in creation week, the original kind? How will they be in heaven? You don't know. The rapid evolution of the former state may have seen bats change a lot. You don't know.


Yes. Fallen angels are real too.

Not to those who have a good intellect.

Do you resent your god sending you out there to try to sell him armed with absolutely nothing? Why didn't he give you an unmistakable miracle? He left you defenseless and doomed to take a verbal beating. Is that fair? Shouldn't He have girded and armed you better than that?

 

[Jumi]

I know you are but what am I? We can only go by your posts...so far they are vacuous drool.

It seems like you lack the ability for civil discourse. I hope that your display isn't representative of your church.

We have no idea of you, except that you lie about being 117 years old on your profile and seem angry. So far, we have no idea what beliefs you hold. Yes, you said you believe in scripture, but that doesn't say much. This forum is full of people who believe in scriptures, some of them have the same scriptures as you and still don't hold your beliefs. You don't seem to understand this, though.

So far you've provided nothing at all except insults and your ignorance of science as proof that "science is wrong". Yet you don't seem to have an idea of what the science even says, or that your claims aren't something to even shake the base... at all. And you call my posts vacuous drool.

 

[Jumi]

This is the blasphemy section of the Forum?

This is an open site, not a safe space. Study the rules of the forum.

 

[shmogie]

Which sense did you think I relied on to make that argument? Smell? Touch? The argument was pure reason based on the Law of Noncontradiction.



Paul was speaking of Prince Albert in the can there. You can't see its powers and principalities until you open the can.

Hey - if you feel free to improvise ad lib with no support for your wild claims, I'll accept that as an invitation to do the same.



No, you are. The Bible is a tool used to subjugate and exploit. That is its purpose.

I understand that that you might resent rational skeptics taking the same liberties and adopting the same authoritarian tone that you grant yourself, but I chose to indulge myself here and adopt the style of the faith based thinker. I hope you won't mind.

Don't mind at all. The "Bible is a tool used to subjugate and exploit " In some cases, yes, in most, no. The freest societies that have ever existed have been primarily populated by Christians who believe the Bible. THIS society in the USA was, and has been sustained by a population that believes the Bible. Western Europe has primarily become atheistic, humanist if you will, and the wheels are coming off their baby carriage. Merkel told her folks they must prepare for a moslem majority nation. It will happen in most western European country's. A TRUE religion of subjagation and exploitation. The inevitable breakdown of "enlightened" societies has begun, and it will include the USA. No surprise here for Christians

 

[dad1]

No. That's in another part of the forum. You've found your way to the "Deny Scientific Evidence In Favor of Positing Myth" section of the forum.

The bible is myth?

 

[LuisDantas]

confirmation bias

No. High school education.

What doesn't make sense is that most of the evolutionists in this thread have a religion listed, yet there is no concern about that//as long as they believe in evolution/?

Which movie are we talking about?

 

[dad1]

Not to somebody with a stake in not believing it. Proving is a cooperative effort. The student has to be sufficiently educated as well as willing to be convinced by a compelling argument to allow me to prove anything to him. Do you think that that describes you?

Any student needs to look at whether the teacher is a known sex offender and liar. In the case of someone teaching lies about origins, a good student should have some ability to check the teacher claims.

I also can't prove Pythagoras' theorem to an ant. Does than make it wrong?

You can't prove a same state past to a human either. What can you do? We wait.

Fortunately Quetzalcoatl, who has the power of veto over Jesus, agrees with me. I think that Athena does as well, but I'm less certain.

Your teacher should be sued.

How do you think you're doing on this thread in your witness for Jesus? John 11:35

I thought it was debating origin issues and looking at what science knows?
That should matter.