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Modern man like footprints found, evolution theory in doubt.

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
As on other forums, you blithely claim it is proven, but cannot so more than that, and cannot show how when or where. Your argument cannot be torn apart because you have none to offer. Quite a position to have.


I gave you evidence. You either ignored it or did not understand it. Please don't make false claims about me.

Rather than making false claims and breaking the Ninth Commandment you should be asking for clarification when you do not understand. If your God is real you are doomed for your continual unrepentant breaking of the Commandments. Asking for forgiveness of your sins is key to your theology. Continually sinning only proves that you have no remorse for your countless sins.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I think you need to admit science doesn't know. The healing begins from there. Can you do that?
Can you answer the questions?

You seem quite confident that you know. I think most scientific conclusions rest on a great deal more evidence and testing than your hypotheses.
 

dad1

Active Member
Can you answer the questions?

You seem quite confident that you know. I think most scientific conclusions rest on a great deal more evidence and testing than your hypotheses.
Science does not know. So we either chose to believe for whatever other reasons we may have, or we chose to remain ignorant.

My bible beliefs are well based. Your science beliefs have been shown to be vacuous fables.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Hate to make you face the facts but you have never done anything of the sort anywhere. That is why we see no link to the missing supposed evidence you speak about as if it existed. Pitiful.
Wrong again, the post is still there. You did not understand it.

Running away when help is offered is an admission that you are wrong.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Every post you and other posters make here is evidence that substantiates that the nature of the past is not known. Face it.

What? Are you really this silly or is it an act for RF?

Read a history book and educate yourself
 

dad1

Active Member
Wrong again, the post is still there. You did not understand it.

Running away when help is offered is an admission that you are wrong.
Name what post and what you think you were misunderstood about. But you are not here to debate...so keep blathering I guess.
 

dad1

Active Member
What? Are you really this silly or is it an act for RF?

Read a history book and educate yourself
You think history educates us as to what nature existed at creation? History is post flood. History of the earliest times also supports a different nature. Cut the one liners and either debate or get off the pot.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You think history educates us as to what nature existed at creation? History is post flood. History of the earliest times also supports a different nature. Cut the one liners and either debate or get off the pot.

dad. you keep piling myth upon myth. We knew that there was no flood over 200 years ago.

Do you have a reason for trying to make Christianity look so bad?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Get over it. Sometimes using capitol letters to accentuate things is not evil.

A whole paragraph of capital letters accentuates your deliberate ignorance and little else. And you already admitted why you posted in caps so now you add more dishonesty to your repertoire. You are a true man of your faith.

Btw, do you realise why i left religion? It was because of good religious folks mocking disability, "get over it" is a typical phrase such good Christians use, you are no saying that you mock disability are you?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You think history educates us as to what nature existed at creation? History is post flood. History of the earliest times also supports a different nature. Cut the one liners and either debate or get off the pot.

Archaeology is essentially ancient history. You would be amazed at how many civilizations ignored the flood and thrived right though it:

 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You think history educates us as to what nature existed at creation? History is post flood. History of the earliest times also supports a different nature. Cut the one liners and either debate or get off the pot.

What flood?
What different nature?

Please provide evidence of your claims cut the bs and be honest for once in your life and debate like an adult
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What flood?
What different nature?

Please provide evidence of your claims cut the bs and be honest for once in your life and debate like an adult

I have known dad for years and his tactics are still the same. Shift the burden of proof. And ignore any evidence presented.
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
Then explain it in a way that includes details, rather than some statement alluding to it. What isotope exists that should not if the state changed in the last 4300 years? You do realize most isotopes in the origin debate have much longer half lives?

It's not a matter of what isotopes there are, but the ratios we find them in.

You don't seem to be able to grasp this basic concept.

Well if we started off with say, to simplify things,100 units of a parent isotope when this nature started, and we no, due to decay, only had say, 99 units, that would mean one unit decayed away in the last 4300 or whatever time since this nature existed. Or, if there was say, 100 units of what is now daughter isotope at the start of this nature, and we now had 101 units, that would mean we got one extra unit from decay.

The pattern in this example would be one more or less unit for either the parent or daughter material that came to exist since the sate change. But because of the current processes in this nature, if we looked at the 99 or 101 units, we would assume they came to exist because of decay. We would then assign an age based on the rate of decay now observed for all 99...or 101 units rather than just the one unit that actually came about from current nature decay!

ONLY if there was 100 units of daughter isotopes to begin with!

Now try the same thing, but starting with 25 units of daughter isotope at the start of this nature. See if you get the same result.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It's not a matter of what isotopes there are, but the ratios we find them in.

You don't seem to be able to grasp this basic concept.



ONLY if there was 100 units of daughter isotopes to begin with!

Now try the same thing, but starting with 25 units of daughter isotope at the start of this nature. See if you get the same result.


The complex decay chains of various heavy elements gives us another way to test dating methods using U238, U235, Th232 and others. The amount of the short lived intermediates found can be easily calculated based upon what we would expect to see from the amount of the parent product present, if there was no "change of state". The fact that they match the predicted amounts confirms the theory. And it is another problem that deniers can't explain until they ultimately claim that "God lied".

Decay chain - Wikipedia

And a long article that goes into all sorts of detail:

https://www.princeton.edu/geosciences/people/schoene/pdf/4_10_Schoene_UThPb_geochronology.pdf
 
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