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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
and we don't know much...scientists, let's say, astronomers, are in awe of the new things they see. But they didn't make these things, they only discover them. Kind of like underground caves with water that are still being explored. Even the account of the growth of life on the earth seems to be in harmony with natural life. As described in Genesis, first water, then plant life, then animal life -- then humans -- how did the writer know that? He could have figured they all came at the same time. Apparently the account was given to Adam by God his Maker, and he, despite his sin, passed that on to his offspring, and Moses also knew about that. Imagine Adam telling his experience to his children. He knew he was never an infant. (I know I was an infant, but don't remember being born. Yes, I think that's a relevant factor in our understanding of God since He made us that way. Not by evolution, but by the force of life as yes, He initiated.)
But that's not the reason I began to believe in God. :) Still getting there if we can continue later...
Have a good night.
Humans are animals and they were not the last species to evolve. The Bible also got a lot wrong.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Oh, just like the "genetic content" doesn't demonstrate that you're related to your great-great-great-great-grandmother?

Sorry but you're speaking nonsense here.
What the senior research scientist said is true about the speculation of evolution and human origins -- it's a big mess. (yup, it is. All you have to do is read about it. :)) It will explain itself about the big mess. That's what I have realized as to the validity of the speculations.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What the senior research scientist said is true about the speculation of evolution and human origins -- it's a big mess. (yup, it is. All you have to do is read about it. :)) It will explain itself about the big mess. That's what I have realized as to the validity of the speculations.
Too bad that you did not understand what he said. Yes, it is complicated. He did not even hint that it did not happen.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Humans are animals and they were not the last species to evolve. The Bible also got a lot wrong.
You can say humans are animals. Others can say that, too. Freedom of thought and speech. But although we eat and drink like some other animals in a way, we are not animals.
We are not apes, even though some say we are. So we differ on that. The Bible got a lot right. I have come to recognize it not as the word of man, but as the inspired word of God. There are things not easy to understand in the Bible, and there can be transmission problems. These things do not nullify the validity of the Scriptures.
Men surely can act like wild animals, but this does not mean they evolved. The fact that they can act viciously, wickedly and violently really only confirms that Adam did what was wrong in God's eyes. Anyway, have a nice night.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Too bad that you did not understand what he said. Yes, it is complicated. He did not even hint that it did not happen.
That is correct, he did not deny evolution. He just said that it's a big mess regarding conclusions of science and what it means. Yup, that's what he designated. So there goes that black hole filled with wonder. :)
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You can say humans are animals. Others can say that, too. Freedom of thought and speech. But although we eat and drink like some other animals in a way, we are not animals.
We are not apes, even though some say we are. So we differ on that. The Bible got a lot right. I have come to recognize it not as the word of man, but as the inspired word of God. There are things not easy to understand in the Bible, and there can be transmission problems. These things do not nullify the validity of the Scriptures.
Men surely can act like wild animals, but this does not mean they evolved. The fact that they can act viciously, wickedly and violently really only confirms that Adam did what was wrong in God's eyes. Anyway, have a nice night.
If you believe a god created all life, every species, in reality you are just another created species.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
And we won't be the last species to evolve. In a million years what we call "humans" may be nothing more than a extinct species that evolved into a completely new species.
Well, that's your thought and many others, so have a good night anyway. :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You can say humans are animals. Others can say that, too. Freedom of thought and speech. But although we eat and drink like some other animals in a way, we are not animals.
We are not apes, even though some say we are. So we differ on that. The Bible got a lot right. I have come to recognize it not as the word of man, but as the inspired word of God. There are things not easy to understand in the Bible, and there can be transmission problems. These things do not nullify the validity of the Scriptures.
Men surely can act like wild animals, but this does not mean they evolved. The fact that they can act viciously, wickedly and violently really only confirms that Adam did what was wrong in God's eyes. Anyway, have a nice night.
I am sorry but you can not find any biological difference between you and other great apes. In other words, any trait that other great apes have as a group you have too.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If you believe a god created all life, every species, in reality you are just another created species.
There's a difference, however. And I'm not sure what you mean by species. And I believe God set biologic limits as to forcing entry into another kind, or type of being. Still, gorillas not becoming anything but gorillas that we see. So odd that fossils of the "last common ancestor" have not been found yet. :) But that's neither here nor there now, because -- humans and apes and bees are rather different in a special way. :)
But! have a good night. It's been interesting. :)
 

We Never Know

No Slack
There's a difference, however. And I'm not sure what you mean by species. And I believe God set biologic limits as to forcing entry into another kind, or type of being. Still, gorillas not becoming anything but gorillas that we see. So odd that fossils of the "last common ancestor" have not been found yet. :) But that's neither here nor there now, because -- humans and apes and bees are rather different in a special way. :)
But! have a good night. It's been interesting. :)
You are not sure what I mean by species??
Then let me ask you... What do you think species means?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Basically, the gist of the ToE is that all life forms tend to evolve over time unless they go extinct. All the rest are details.

See: Evolution - Wikipedia

Since the concept of Divine intervention cannot be proven, nor is it testable, the ToE is totally neutral on this. Most Christian theologians [about 70% the last survey I saw], do believe in God and also accept the basic ToE as long as it is understood that God was behind it all. In my case, the first time I heard that the two are compatible was from a Catholic priest back when I was in high school back in 1962.

BTW, I'm 25 years old. :D

It's all a matter of degrees as our brain configuration is actually very similar with the biggest difference being the huge size of our cerebrum.
I know some kids like the looks of dinosaurs. I don't and never did think they were cute or funny. (I'm also not 25...lol)
 
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