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More than half of Americans say it should be legal for gays and lesbians to marry,

Noaidi

slow walker
thats the point, there is no difference in the action of the former to the latter.

are you saying that there is something wrong with bestiality?

As far as I'm aware, bestiality doesn't involve consent - homosexuality does. Bestiality doesn't involve an equality of emotions and desires. Homosexuality does.

You still havn't addressed my question: why do you find homosexuality 'silly' and 'sick'?
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
As far as I'm aware, bestiality doesn't involve consent - homosexuality does. Bestiality doesn't involve an equality of emotions and desires. Homosexuality does.

You still havn't addressed my question: why do you find homosexuality 'silly' and 'sick'?

i had a dog that became emotionally atached to a calph. and are you telling me that a female dog thats ready for mating will give a rats as to who she does it with?

so by what you are saying regarding that consent thing, a person who is slightly mentally ill should never have sex because he is unable to give consent although he might want to have sex.

thridly, AIDS (what a nice name for it) and HIV are as a result of illicit sex, a big part of which is homosexuality. would you like links?
 

Noaidi

slow walker
i had a dog that became emotionally atached to a calph. and are you telling me that a female dog thats ready for mating will give a rats as to who she does it with?

so by what you are saying regarding that consent thing, a person who is slightly mentally ill should never have sex because he is unable to give consent although he might want to have sex.

thridly, AIDS (what a nice name for it) and HIV are as a result of illicit sex, a big part of which is homosexuality. would you like links?

Not at the moment, thanks. You are asking questions, but let's stay on topic and get back to why you think homosexual marriages are 'silly' and 'sick'.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Not at the moment, thanks. You are asking questions, but let's stay on topic and get back to why you think homosexual marriages are 'silly' and 'sick'.

this is why they are sick, literally:

Main article: Origin of AIDS
AIDS was first reported June 5, 1981, when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recorded a cluster of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (now still classified as PCP but known to be caused by Pneumocystis jirovecii) in five homosexual men in Los Angeles.[14]

AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

why they are silly:

because first of all it is sick (see above) and then it is silly because so long as 2 people give consent it makes it ok, even though it is sick and *** edited out ***.

p.s you have to stop asking that question.
 
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Noaidi

slow walker
this is why they are sick, literally:

Main article: Origin of AIDS
AIDS was first reported June 5, 1981, when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recorded a cluster of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (now still classified as PCP but known to be caused by Pneumocystis jirovecii) in five homosexual men in Los Angeles.[14]

AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

why they are silly:

because first of all it is sick (see above) and then it is silly because so long as 2 people give consent it makes it ok, even though it is sick and *** edited out ***.

p.s you have to stop asking that question.

Well, it's only now you've actually addressed it. I have to go, but I'll read the links and get back to you.
 
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ninerbuff

godless wonder
this is why they are sick, literally:

Main article: Origin of AIDS
AIDS was first reported June 5, 1981, when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recorded a cluster of Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (now still classified as PCP but known to be caused by Pneumocystis jirovecii) in five homosexual men in Los Angeles.[14]

AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

why they are silly:

because first of all it is sick (see above) and then it is silly because so long as 2 people give consent it makes it ok, even though it is sick and *** edited out ***.

p.s you have to stop asking that question.
The flu has killed more people and is much more contagious than AIDS.:rolleyes:
Relax, gay people only want others that want them. Homophobia lurks in people who really have no idea how nice gay people are. In many cases, people like you have friends who are homosexual and you absolutely have no idea that they are. Happens all the time.
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
whats silly is a man loving a man and a woman living a woman. if i said i wanted an animal beside me in bed or in hospital would anyone oppose me?
Even if you have sex with an animal, it's not legally capable of informed consent. If it couldn't legally agree to medical care for itself, what makes you think it could legally agree to medical care on your behalf?

ha ha lol, i was just waiting for you to say something along those lines, lol

although this was fortold by Prophet Muhamed salallahu alayhi we selam i find it sick that 2 people of the same gender can love each other and ask for 'homo rights' with no sense of shame, not even e little bit. what makes it worse is that people support it, what next, bestiality is ok too? (note, i am entitled to an oppinion and a perspective, it's called freedom of speech for those of you who don't know).
Actually, AFAIK, bestiality has never been legally prohibited in some US states. I believe it's still legal in Florida... maybe others.

personally speaking, i don't see any kind of difference to homosexuality and bestiality, none wathsoever.
So the capacity to consent doesn't factor into your judgement of the morality of sex?

so now i ask the question is there something wrong with me, or with those who are pro gay?
Frankly, I think there is something wrong with you - with your position, anyhow. You're arguing for your personal views of right and wrong to be imposed on everyone.

You should count yourself lucky that people haven't done the same to the things hold dear. In fact, I think that if you did a survey of the US, you'd find that tolerance for Islam and tolerance for homosexuality go hand-in-hand. The opposition to same-sex marriage and gay rights comes mainly from fundamentalist Christians who are definitely not fans of Muhammad, either. Do you really want them to be able to dictate what people can and can't do?

The mindset that allows for acceptance of homosexuality is the same mindset that allows for acceptance of Islam.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
wow really? who exactly are those 53%, are you telling me that this was a nation wide poll, and that everyone voted? i think not, nice try though. :ignore:

No, that's not how polls work. Polls get answers from a representative sample. Please ask if you want to know more about how polling works.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
doppelgänger;2400379 said:
Maybe the folks who wrote this should decide what our values ought to be instead:

Islam and Bestiality - WikiIslam

Indeed.
From the site...

Some may lump together homosexuality and bestiality as both constituting "sexual immorality". However, there is a crucial difference between the two. A homosexual act takes place between two consenting adults, but an animal cannot give its consent.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
whats silly is a man loving a man and a woman living a woman. if i said i wanted an animal beside me in bed or in hospital would anyone oppose me?

I don't think love is silly, and I don't think people are like animals. What is silly is people who are so insecure they are threatened by same-sex love. It's usually the fault of their religious upbringing.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
OMG, are you serious? do i really need to start?

if it was only silly maybe it would get away with only that, but it is sick, disgusting.

are you serious in asking me that question.
So you find real love disgusting. Interesting.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
I 100% agree that there should be legal unity between homosexual couples, but do not understand why there can not be a differential. Marriage is defined as the unity of a man and a woman. What would be wrong with a slightly different name such as unified marriage? Maybe this would keep both sides happy?

Why is the terminology important?
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
ha ha lol, i was just waiting for you to say something along those lines, lol

although this was fortold by Prophet Muhamed salallahu alayhi we selam i find it sick that 2 people of the same gender can love each other and ask for 'homo rights' with no sense of shame, not even e little bit. what makes it worse is that people support it, what next, bestiality is ok too? (note, i am entitled to an oppinion and a perspective, it's called freedom of speech for those of you who don't know). personally speaking, i don't see any kind of difference to homosexuality and bestiality, none wathsoever. so now i ask the question is there something wrong with me, or with those who are pro gay?

Yes, you're entitled to your small-minded, silly opinion, who is saying different? Yes, there's something wrong with you. Glad I could help.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
nah mate, homosexuality is wrong, your parents would have never had you if they had been homos, same with me.

First of all, gay people have kids all the time. Second, had your parents never married, or not married each other, they wouldn't have had you, but that doesn't make it wrong. If that's your idea of moral reasoning, it explains a lot.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
thats the point, there is no difference in the action of the former to the latter.

are you saying that there is something wrong with bestiality?

Really, that's so interesting. You can't see any difference between lifelong loving commitment between two adults and someone having sex with an animal. That's sad. It seems like you have a little difficulty with moral reasoning.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
i had a dog that became emotionally atached to a calph. and are you telling me that a female dog thats ready for mating will give a rats as to who she does it with?

so by what you are saying regarding that consent thing, a person who is slightly mentally ill should never have sex because he is unable to give consent although he might want to have sex.

thridly, AIDS (what a nice name for it) and HIV are as a result of illicit sex, a big part of which is homosexuality. would you like links?

I see. So lesbianism is preferable to heterosexuality, since it does not transmit AIDS.
 
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