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Mortality

javajo

Well-Known Member
You are of course free to believe anything you want, and I'm not going to go into that at all, but I find this world to be infinitely amazing and fascinating.
I find great pleasure in my work, my friends and in living in general, and if your faith is preventing you from living the best life possible, both with respects to you and your fellow humans, then it seems...wasteful.
I'm sorry, I really can't relate to that at all.
Well we were talking about mortality, death, not life. I really love life, my job, friends, learning, playing music, walking, and enjoying the world we have. But I'm not permanently attached to it. There is more than just this, however nice it is. I could do without some of the aches and pains, though, but I'm managing them. I enjoy this world, but the next is gonna be far better!

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 1 Cor.2:9
 

The Sum of Awe

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I think I'm more afraid of the things I'd miss out on if I die, but I'm not at all afraid of death, semi-excited actually. No things to do, nothing to worry about.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
Well we were talking about mortality, death, not life. I really love life, my job, friends, learning, playing music, walking, and enjoying the world we have. But I'm not permanently attached to it. There is more than just this, however nice it is. I could do without some of the aches and pains, though, but I'm managing them. I enjoy this world, but the next is gonna be far better!

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 1 Cor.2:9

I just don't want anyone to think of this life as just a waiting period for whatever comes after (I have no reason to think there even is anything after, but that's me) and thus not living their lives to the fullest. :)
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
What do you mean?

I mean I would have no problem putting my death off indefinately. I have no desire to see what dead is like, I kind of want to see what life will be like through the millenia. All these people who claim they don't want to live forever, I just wonder what they would say if truly offered an alternative to death.

By the way, breakthroughs in medical and nano technologies could extend human life by decades, possibly even centuries. I say bring it on.
 

javajo

Well-Known Member
I just don't want anyone to think of this life as just a waiting period for whatever comes after (I have no reason to think there even is anything after, but that's me) and thus not living their lives to the fullest. :)
I can dig that. After all Jesus said he came that we may have life and have it more abundantly. I believe with his help, breaking free of some of sin's bondages frees us to live that abundant life.
 

Alex_G

Enlightner of the Senses
How do you feel about your mortality?


Honestly i ignore it, or at least am oblivious of it for 90%+ of my daily life. I think otherwise i would prob loose the plot. 'Ignorance is bliss' is probably an apt description. I think minds that cant block out and ignore things can become very troubled and weighed down.

I can stand back and philosophise about my death, the meaning, the experience, but i am always distanced from it psychologically, or emotionally. I think there will be a differences in how i feel about it with regards to where i am in life at any one time. To acutely fear imminent death is one thing, to sit passively with a knowledge of time running out is another. To ponder the unknown is yet another. As for age and illness, i think such things can alter your psychology significantly that perspectives of your own mortality will change.
 
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The Sum of Awe

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I mean I would have no problem putting my death off indefinately. I have no desire to see what dead is like, I kind of want to see what life will be like through the millenia. All these people who claim they don't want to live forever, I just wonder what they would say if truly offered an alternative to death.

Nope :) Otherwise I'd be religious.

It's not because I want to see what death is like, being that I wont see anything or be aware of anything. It's the fact that I seriously think about how long forever is... there isn't even a 'how long'...

By the way, breakthroughs in medical and nano technologies could extend human life by decades, possibly even centuries. I say bring it on.

I don't want to exist beyond even 50 years... Maybe 50 years is too long.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
I can dig that.

So we have a point of accord at least. ;)

After all Jesus said he came that we may have life and have it more abundantly.

I don't trust people who claim to talk to and/or being gods. :D

I believe with his help, breaking free of some of sin's bondages frees us to live that abundant life.

I'm unaware of what a sin actually means, so I guess I am already free. :tigger:
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
It'll happen, I'm ok with it. I'd probably be more concerned if I had kids or anyone else to worry about being taken care of besides the cat. People would mourn me, but no one relies on me to exist so if it happens, it happens.
 

javajo

Well-Known Member
So we have a point of accord at least. ;)
Always a pleasant thing.

I don't trust people who claim to talk to and/or being gods. :D
Me neither. Except when I study Jesus I see a profound difference in his character and teachings and when I look at the OT prophecies he fulfilled, I find more and more reason to believe him.
I'm unaware of what a sin actually means, so I guess I am already free. :tigger:
Ignorance is bliss eh? :) Briefly, I believe sin is falling short of the perfect holiness of God. To know more precisely how we fall short, God gave us the Law (10 commandments) and our conscience. So, to murder, commit adultery, steal, lie, covet, disobey one's parents, take God's name in vain, or worship other 'gods' would be sin. There is an endless list of sins one can commit that all fall under the pride of life, lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh, like hatred, excess, hurting others with words or physically, arrogance, pride, lust, etc. etc. I think children have the least jaded or hardened conscience as when they do wrong, say hit their sibling then lie about it, they feel intense guilt. As we grow older we become calloused and our conscience doesn't always prick our hearts as it should, so we become less aware of the extent of our state of sinfulness.

The Bible, which is what I believe in, defines what sin is and says we all have sinned. This is a serious matter, as it says the penalty of sin is death. Adam sinned and passed his sinful nature down to all man so that all have sinned. Jesus, who is God Incarnate (in the flesh) was born sinless (as he was not born of man, but conceived of the Holy Spirit) and did not sin, yet he took all our sins on himself and paid the penalty (death) on the cross. Now he freely gives eternal life to all who trust him for that. So, our sins are paid for, forgiven, and Christ gives us his righteousness so we can go to Heaven. That is my belief from my understanding of the Bible. Thanks for your replies and Happy Thanksgiving!
 
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