I'd put Falun Gong way ahead of Christianity, too.
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Most persecuted religion in the world is.....
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Flankerl
Well-Known Member
But you only quoted one number, 70.000. Where are all the others coming from?
The latest Canaan census from 3000 years ago?
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Ya gotta add up all the known populations mentioned
If you look hard enough you'll find the numbers . . .
e.g.
2 Chronicles 13:15-18
15 and the men of Judah raised the battle cry. At the sound of their battle cry, God routed Jeroboam and all Israel before Abijah and Judah. 16 The Israelites fled before Judah, and God delivered them into their hands. 17 Abijah and his troops inflicted heavy losses on them, so that there were five hundred thousand casualties among Israel’s able men. 18 The Israelites were subdued on that occasion, and the people of Judah were victorious because they relied on the Lord, the God of their ancestors.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Uhm.
"among Israel's able men"
But what if... they were smaller Tribes? What if they were bigger Tribes?
You can't just make a number up and declare it as the right number when you don't have sufficient data.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Me thinks the point is not in the actual numbers (as we know how historically correct the christian bible can be)
The deaths are recorded in the Christian bible . . . entire cities at times.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
When someone won't vote for you because of a religious perspective, such as with the case in how very many people will not vote for an atheist as president, then yes, it is persecution.
How? Are we going to have to start having 'negative persecution' and 'positive persecution' now? Is any form of 'I don't like..' 'I don't trust...' persecution?
Sees
Dragonslayer
Still seems a stretch to me.
Religion, political policies, and alliances will always be intermixing. Most people here probably wouldn't vote for someone religiously conservative. Even though it would be stated for other reasons, it basically accomplishes the same thing.
To me something has to actually be happening to X group for them to be persecuted. Out-numbered and not as well liked, trusted, etc. isn't the same.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Atheists are occasionally assaulted here in America.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/wom...ause-he-said-he-doesnt-believe-in-god-police/
A Kentucky woman was arrested on accusations she beat a disabled man with his metal cane until it broke, because he said he didn’t believe in God, WDRB reports.
Or an atheist child may have problems in school.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-telling-classmates-he-didnt-believe-in-god/
In February of 2015, A.B. was a second grader at Forest Park Elementary School, a school that is within Fort Wayne Community Schools. During a discussion with classmates on the playground he responded to a question by indicating that he did not go to church because he did not believe in God. This resulted in his teacher interrogating the child as to his beliefs and requiring the child to sit by himself during lunch and not talk to his classmates during lunch for three days. This violates the First Amendment. The defendant’s actions caused great distress to A.B. and resulted in the child being ostracized by his peers past the three-day “banishment.” No meaningful attempt has been made to remedy these injuries and the child seeks his damages.
Sees
Dragonslayer
It happens, it's just small potatoes in places like this though when compared to elsewhere in the world. It's infrequent and there isn't anything like communities getting slaughtered or having businesses trashed. I'm sure Mormons, JW's, Muslims, etc. get similar treatment as in your post, on as regular a basis.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Things are different in other parts of the world, but isn't necessarily a good measurement. Child labor is bad, but we don't say "at least it's not as bad as the child slavery over there." And it's not a "small fry" when people are being attacked and people believe you inherently cannot be a good or moral person. It's not a "small fry" when your entire approach towards religion, an approach that is inherently benign, is to use the word to describe their views as a derogation in itself. It's not a "small fry" when you are constantly badgered because you don't hold a firm belief in god. It results in a lot of widespread disrespect, lack of trust, arguments with family, and far too many difficulties and inconveniences to say there is no persecution of the non-theist group, and even with some non-Christian groups in some areas. Yes, plenty of people elsewhere have known death for not being a Christian or a Muslim, but an open atheist will not become president at this time because too many people would be using the candidates atheism alone as an attack against the candidates morality. No, it's not death or imprisonment, but it is a very clear disadvantage over something that shouldn't even be an issue.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I would say Christianity lies among the most criticised religions. Perscuted? No way.
I agree with others Its primarily indigenous religions such as Native American and various Pagen sects that undergo the real brunt of persecution.
I agree with others Its primarily indigenous religions such as Native American and various Pagen sects that undergo the real brunt of persecution.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
Isn't it interesting that the religions of Abraham whom have abused and murdered millions (and destroyed antiquities, and whole cultures) in the name of their religions, - are now fighting and killing each other in the name of their God, resulting in the idea that "Christians" are the most persecuted.
Take The religions of Abraham - whom are killing each other in their God's name - proselytizing and trying to spread their religion, - out of the equation, - and we get a more accurate picture of persecuted Pagans, Heathens, and smaller religious groups.
EDIT - Most of these "persecuted" Christians are in Islamic countries, - where they have tried to proselytize - and make converts, - even though they KNOW they are not wanted there, or the country has laws against such. They put themselves and their converts into danger and persecution. Sometime expecting governments like the USA to come to their aid when they get caught doing things against that country's laws.
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Crimes committed in the name of religion or some God are particularly disgusting.
These atrocities involve far more religions that Christianity.
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/crime-in-the-name-of-religion/15496166
Crimes in the name of religion are committed all over the world; Pakistan is no exception. Our rulers tell us that religious minorities are treated equally but the opposite is in fact true. In the ‘Land of the Pure’, threats, attacks, targeted killings of people from minority sects/other religions and different forms of religious hate crimes have risen considerably over the years. - See more at: http://www.mid-day.com/articles/crime-in-the-name-of-religion/15496166#sthash.bDjMluoe.dpuf
These atrocities involve far more religions that Christianity.
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/crime-in-the-name-of-religion/15496166
Crimes in the name of religion are committed all over the world; Pakistan is no exception. Our rulers tell us that religious minorities are treated equally but the opposite is in fact true. In the ‘Land of the Pure’, threats, attacks, targeted killings of people from minority sects/other religions and different forms of religious hate crimes have risen considerably over the years. - See more at: http://www.mid-day.com/articles/crime-in-the-name-of-religion/15496166#sthash.bDjMluoe.dpuf
Lets just see what isn't on the news about religious murders. Source: The religion of peace.
Weekly Report
Feb 20, 2016
Feb 26, 2016
Attacks 34
Killed 288
Injured 575
Suicide Blasts 3
Countries 12
Heck I won't copy and paste all these crimes committed by the Religion of Peace.
Go here:
http://thereligionofpeace.com/
Most of these horrors occurred this past week.
Weekly Report
Feb 20, 2016
Feb 26, 2016
Attacks 34
Killed 288
Injured 575
Suicide Blasts 3
Countries 12
Heck I won't copy and paste all these crimes committed by the Religion of Peace.
Go here:
http://thereligionofpeace.com/
Most of these horrors occurred this past week.
Not sure what you mean to say, @jeager106
At the current population levels, those numbers look positively tiny. I expect kitchen accidents to have caused a lot more harm in the same timeframe.
At the current population levels, those numbers look positively tiny. I expect kitchen accidents to have caused a lot more harm in the same timeframe.
Feb 20, 2016
Feb 26, 2016
Attacks 34
Killed 288
Injured 575
Suicide Blasts 3
Countries 12
That's one week of murderous violence versus traffic and home accidents.
You don't see a difference between murder and an accident?
Please find me some stats on fatal kitchen accidents for the same week.
I tried and couldn't fine anything.
So you feel kitchen accidents caused more casualties?
Interesting.
Feb 26, 2016
Attacks 34
Killed 288
Injured 575
Suicide Blasts 3
Countries 12
That's one week of murderous violence versus traffic and home accidents.
You don't see a difference between murder and an accident?
Please find me some stats on fatal kitchen accidents for the same week.
I tried and couldn't fine anything.
So you feel kitchen accidents caused more casualties?
Interesting.
I don't have actual numbers either, but yes, those numbers feel rather tiny to me. Don't you agree?