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Most recent cases and deaths of Covid-19 are unvaccinated.

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
German is a rather wonderful language. I wish I spoke it.

I suspect (shushpect?) what you mean is that we might have shunk into the abyssh of a new Dark Age, made more shinishter, and perhapsh more protracted, by the lightsh of perverted schienche.
The Dark Age is at least a misnomer. What we have today is a selfish hedonism and nihilism that plays out like being drunk on a bad reading of Nietzsche, and getting behind the wheel of a large truck. People believe they have right to do whatever they want, and we're so far removed the collective they also believe everyone's health is entirely their own making. It's a bunch of "me me me me me me me," and it's showing another facet of its destructiveness.
It's the "Selfish Arselings Age."
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The Dark Age is at least a misnomer. What we have today is a selfish hedonism and nihilism that plays out like being drunk on a bad reading of Nietzsche, and getting behind the wheel of a large truck. People believe they have right to do whatever they want, and we're so far removed the collective they also believe everyone's health is entirely their own making. It's a bunch of "me me me me me me me," and it's showing another facet of its destructiveness.
It's the "Selfish Arselings Age."
The anti-vaxers I know believe they're doing the right thing.
They're operating with different premises.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
There is plenty vaccine for anyone who desires it. Covid-19 has not gone away and and in some countries it is at present at pandemic levels including mutated vafiations..
I know. But our rollout is still in phase 1. So basically vulnerable people, their caretakers and people in essential services and hospital workers. Which is fair enough, they should have priority.
But the Pfizer vaccine, which is the one recommended for my age group, might not have a massive supply until October. And I am not keen to get the Astrazena or whatever it’s called. Again it’s not recommended for my age group so I will follow medical advice. It’s just taking forever is all lol
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Well, statistics are overwhelming by far the majority of the unvaccinated are Republicans and Indepenants on the Conservative Right.
Many groups are messing this up. Except Biden supporters.
Here Are The Groups Who Don’t Want A Vaccine—And Trump Voters Are Near Top
Republican men: 49%.

Trump supporters: 47%.

Republicans: 41%.

White men without a college degree: 40%.

White evangelicals: 38%.

People under 45: 37%.

Latinos: 37%.

Rural Americans: 36%.

Generation Z and Millennials: 36%.

Independent men: 36%.
The amount of Biden supporters who said they won't get vaccinated was only 10%, among the lowest listings in the poll.
Most are Republicans, lots of different people are jeopardizing herd immunity and the effectiveness of the vaccine.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The anti-vaxers I know believe they're doing the right thing.
They're operating with different premises.
That's most people in most situations. The Klan, for example, thinks they are being good, god-fearing Christians. Andrew Jackson thought he was right to abuse and slaughter the Natives. That's every cop who's ever abused and killed a civilian. Rationalizing our misdeeds to justify them is a normal human thing.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And I am confident that our scientists will stay on top of any varients.
This virus seems to love to mutate, with variants being more contagious and more deadly. There is a possibility there will be catching up to do.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's most people in most situations. The Klan, for example, thinks they are being good, god-fearing Christians. Andrew Jackson thought he was right to abuse and slaughter the Natives. That's every cop who's ever abused and killed a civilian. Rationalizing our misdeeds to justify them is a normal human thing.
It seemed that you presumed they know they're doing misdeeds.
Ref...
"People believe they have right to do whatever they want, and we're so far removed the collective they also believe everyone's health is entirely their own making. It's a bunch of "me me me me me me me," and it's showing another facet of its destructiveness."

Someone can be wrong without wrongful intent.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Last year, we saw multiple reports of people calling COVID a hoax, then ending up in an ICU or dead. This year, I expect to see reports of those who refused vaccines following in those footsteps. I expect to see the testimonials of people dying who say (or whose families say) they wished that they had not listened to the bad advice from their tribe. Like the Capitol protestors in jail awaiting trial, they'll be lamenting listening to the wrong people.

This just appeared locally. The last line set off exactly what you'd expect. My two favorites were the guy who went on about his rights and his unwillingness to expose himself to risk, then complained that the person running this class (from her home) is discriminating against him. I guess her rights and those of the people that want a protected environment for ukulele class in defense of the risk they feel he represents.

Then there was the guy telling us that, "This is divisional and prejudiced, using hand sanitizer is 99%. effective." He reminds me of the creationists who use the science they like to argue against the science they don't like. Suddenly, this guy is Mr. Data when he hopes it will serve him.


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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
What statistics?

Actually you could do the search for your self, but nonetheless . . .

Statistics of Republicans and boen again Christians are similar.

State vaccination rates falling along political party lines

and , , ,

Confidence in COVID-19 Vaccines Rises - AP-NORC

Fewer Americans are reluctant to get immunized against the coronavirus and they are growing more confident in the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines and the quality of their distribution. But those who still hesitate have concerns about whether the vaccines have been properly tested. And 61% of those who are hesitant worry about side effects from the vaccines.

Even as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has relaxed guidelines regarding the wearing of masks outdoors, Americans continue to report high levels of compliance with mask wearing and social distancing. Compliance is particularly high among those who have already been vaccinated.

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Democrats are much more likely than Republicans and independents to be vaccinated. Despite initial doubts at the start of the vaccine rollout, attitudes toward COVID-19 vaccines are improving. As the number of inoculated people in the United States increases, so does confidence that the vaccine is being distributed quickly, safely, and equitably.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Actually you could do the search for your self, but nonetheless . . .
The norm is for the claimant to provide one's own evidence.
Telling others to search for it is a faux pas.
Statistics of Republicans and boen again Christians are similar.

State vaccination rates falling along political party lines

and , , ,

Confidence in COVID-19 Vaccines Rises - AP-NORC

Fewer Americans are reluctant to get immunized against the coronavirus and they are growing more confident in the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines and the quality of their distribution. But those who still hesitate have concerns about whether the vaccines have been properly tested. And 61% of those who are hesitant worry about side effects from the vaccines.

Even as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has relaxed guidelines regarding the wearing of masks outdoors, Americans continue to report high levels of compliance with mask wearing and social distancing. Compliance is particularly high among those who have already been vaccinated.

covidvax-1.jpg

Democrats are much more likely than Republicans and independents to be vaccinated. Despite initial doubts at the start of the vaccine rollout, attitudes toward COVID-19 vaccines are improving. As the number of inoculated people in the United States increases, so does confidence that the vaccine is being distributed quickly, safely, and equitably.
That's better.
Interesting.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
“I am not going to be vaccinated,” Mr Wiles said. “I’m going to be one of the survivors. I’m going to survive the genocide ... The only good thing that will come out of this is a lot of stupid people will be killed off. If the vaccine wipes out a lot of stupid people, well, we’ll have a better world.”

This guy is a Christian preacher.

Anti-vaxxer hospitalised with Covid after saying vaccines would wipe out ‘stupid people’

Of course, he claims now that the virus AND the vaccine are genocidal plots. You can't effing win I guess.
 

Suave

Simulated character
German is a rather wonderful language. I wish I spoke it.

I suspect (shushpect?) what you mean is that we might have shunk into the abyssh of a new Dark Age, made more shinishter, and perhapsh more protracted, by the lightsh of perverted schienche.

Die deutsche Grammatik ist schwer zu erlernen!

Ich kann ein bisschen Deutsch sprechen. Substantive, Artikel, Adjektive und Pronomen werden im Deutschen dekliniert. Die Deklination hängt von der grammatischen (syntaktischen) Funktion des Wortes im Satz ab. Es gibt vier Fälle (Kasus): Nominativ, Genitiv, Dativ, Akkusativ. Im Nominativ steht das Subjekt des Satzes. Der Genitiv drückt in der Regel Besitz oder Zugehörigkeit zu etwas aus. Die Objekte stehen im Dativ und Akkusativ. Auch Präpositionen bewirken eine Deklination des auf sie folgenden Substantivs, Artikels usw. Jede Präposition fordert in der Regel einen bestimmten Fall (Kasus), z.B.: Der Garten liegt hinter dem Haus (Dativ), Er hängt das Bild an die Wand (Akkusativ).

Deutsch hat ein Genus-System, jedes Substantiv hat ein Genus (Maskulinum, Femininum, Neutrum). Am Genus des Substantivs orientieren sich das Genus eines Adjektivs oder eines Artikels, die zu der Substantivgruppe gehören. Die Deklination der Substantiv auch hängt von Geschlecht ab.

English translation:

I can speak a little bit of German. German grammar is difficult to learn!

Nouns, articles, adjectives and pronouns are declined in German. The declension depends on the grammatical (syntactic) function of the word in the sentence. There are four cases (case): nominative, genitive, dative, accusative. The subject of the sentence is in the nominative. The genitive usually expresses possession or belonging to something. The objects are in the dative and accusative. Prepositions also cause a declination of the noun or article that follows them, etc. Each preposition usually requires a specific case, e.g .: The garden is behind the house (dative), He hangs the picture on the wall (accusative).

German has a gender system, every noun has a gender (masculine, feminine, neuter). The gender of an adjective or an article belonging to the noun group is based on the gender of the noun. The declension of the noun also depends on gender.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Data from the UK as of June 3:

12,383 cases of the India variant

464 reported for emergency assessment

126 admitted to hospital

Of those admitted to hospital, 83 were unvaccinated (66%), 28 had one dose (22%), 3 (2.3%) had both doses.

 
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