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Mueller indicts 13 Russian nationals over 2016 election interference

Underhill

Well-Known Member
There were a lot of things that effected the election. I watched as many things that happened on both sides were unethical but passed the smell test. Including a MSM that spun things to view one candidate over another.

In the end, I believe that a suspecting amount of American people had had enough of the politics as usual and decided to put someone into office that didn't promise the world and deliver nothing. I see the attack on Trump as political from a political side who lost. But so far, he has done what he said he would do, and continues to seek to do what he said he wanted to do in his election bid. The side who didn't vote for him, didn't because they don't want what he said to happen. So now the question becomes, how did Trump win?

To say that Trump was voted in by the Russians over the American people is surely an attack on, not only our electoral process, but a slap in the face of every American that voted for Trump. There is no doubt that the country's voting populace is divided. Yes, pretty much half and half. The voting populace, which doesn't include every American that didn't or doesn't vote, which outnumber those that did.

Many Americans gave up voting due to the "politics as usual", neither side being worthy of their time to vote. In the past year, I see the results of Trump moving this country. Some like the movement, others don't. I see the Democrat talking points as trying to create an illusion when Trump is creating a reality.

Trump gives a tax break to most Americans. The illusion by Dems say it is crumbs, that big business gets the benefits and households lose money as we go further into debt.

The truth. The stock market is escalating. More jobs are created by businesses. The private sector leaves government subsidies in favor of higher earnings, benefiting government spending. The economy improves to allow the housing industry to raise the government loan process from 3% to 4,4%. The government makes more revenue. The people making more can, due to the tax cut, afford more. Housing increases. New housing brings jobs. The economy gains strength, the stock market (investors) buys rather than sells due to the predictions (futures).

The tax cut was nothing more than the government "investing" money to get a "return" on investments. And it's working. Trump see's this and says "let's continue investing" in infrastructure, giving back to the process, like applying oil to rusty cogs in a machine so it can run easier more fluidly. The oil is the investment of jobs and structures that will "return" a more efficient product.

This is called capitalism. Obama wasn't a capitalist. He spent 10 trillion dollars and what did he invest in that brought a return in investment? Name one? Paris Climate Accord? Iran? Libya? Obamacare?(insurance companies all bailed out due to loses). We owe 10 trillion in debt under Obama with nothing to show for it. Not even an improved military, but a depleted one).

So Trump tries to move the economy and the Democrats tried to create an illusion that it would be a disaster. Well he did and it wasn't. Let's move to another illusion. He's President because Russians wound up getting him voted in.

As things start moving for Americans, it will be interesting to see all of this exposed, and see how the people vote in November. By that time, we should have a better idea whether Trump should continue what he's doing, or stop him until we can vote in another that returns us to the policies of 2008-2016.

Maybe the Chinese will help this time.

Virtually none of that is relevant to what I said.

As for Trumps tax cuts, they are a joke. They lower revenue and increase the deficit. Those, along with his hacks to regulation are creating a market buying spree, but one that has become more volatile and more dangerous. I see nothing in his actions that is an improvement economically over his predecessor who also saw growth but at a more measured pace.

The 10 Trillion in debt claim is largely a farce. I don't claim it's a good thing, or even that some of the blame doesn't rest on Obama, but a good sized chunk of that can be traced to wars that Bush started and tax cuts, again implemented by Bush. This is not debatable. The numbers are easy to see if you look them up. But the bigger farce is claiming that Republicans have ever been better. Reagan started this trend of massive deficit spending, both Bushes continued it. The only president who saw a big reduction in spending was Clinton.
 
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