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Muhammads knowledge divine or learned?

vskipper

Active Member
There is not a credible scholar out there that denies the OT was not plagiarized from Canaanite, and Mesopotamian mythology.


The NT was plagiarized from the OT and Hellenism. Luke and Matthew plagiarized Mark


and islam plagiarized it all.


This is only debated because 1.5 billion people are blind to reality in islam and refuse credible knowledge in favor of fanaticism and fundamentalism.

Does similarities mean plagiarism?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Does similarities mean plagiarism?

It can yes.

taking ones ideas and thoughts and changing them to your own needs is plagiarism.


What it comes down to is factual logic and reason.

Did the knowledge come from pre existing belief?

Or unknown magic not even known to exist in reality.


Those are the two choices here.

Imagination or reality.
 

vskipper

Active Member
Hundreds of yrs ago everyone KNEW the world was flat, 40 yrs ago everyone KNEW cloning was science fiction. Imagine what we'll know tomorrow
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Cannon was limited to officials of the church. That is known fact of church history. Not saying he didn't have contact. I am saying that knowledge of him having substantial contact with Christians or Jews before the revelation at Mt Hira is unobtainable. While there are many biographies of the prophet there is little documentation before Mt. Hira & even less about his merchant travels.

However, you are correct that oral tradition was substantial in his time. But to go that route you would first have to argue that the Israelites didn't get their ideas in religion from Babylon & Egypt

So you think the millions of Christians at the time were just told to believe in Jesus and knew nothing about the Bible? No they were taught the Gospels by the Church and the priesthood. Those that could read Latin or Greek could read the Bible. They could tell others who could not read by telling them what it says. This is called oral communication. There were Jewish and Christian tribes in Arabia hence there are people that knew the Torah, Talmud and Bible. Muhammad traveled as a merchant into Christian lands and learned about the Gnostic and Syriac Gospels. Hence why one can find common paraphrased verses in the Quran which is also in these Gospels.

Hebrews did assimilate stories from Babylon. Adam and Eve and the flood are Sumerian/Babylonian mythology with a written source from 2100 BCE. The case has already been made and proven in archaeology that this happened.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Hundreds of yrs ago everyone KNEW the world was flat, 40 yrs ago everyone KNEW cloning was science fiction. Imagine what we'll know tomorrow

This is a myth. People figured out the world was not flat in Greece in 400 BCE. This knowledge was spread by Hellenism. Only ignorant peasant even entertained the idea the world was flat but anyone educated in Greece natural philosophy knew it was round due to observations of the horizon.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I think it's overkill in the title that is not defined in the divine through the following evidence
Is learning to train, transport and false and also is misleading big
The following evidence
1. to Mecca was a nsranet and the community where the priest named his son Naufal, a cousin of Mohammed Abdul Manaf was fourth with Grandpa
This was a priest translated the Gospel according to the Hebrews to Arabic
And this talk of books biography
And cousin of Mohamed alnsraneyen Abdullah ibn alhoirth who emigrated to Syria and did not believe in Mohammed and died there
And also that the Qur'an refers to the importance of this Pastor
The RBC and frying Scrubs
When after the revelation of a period Muslims might disagree
And because of the chill revelation is the death of his son Naufal Pastor alnsrani
2. show the importance of his son Naufal Mohamad marriage ceremony in the presence of premature and is married to alnsrani doctrine and combines with another wife after her death
3. where he taught Ibn Nofal, Mohammed's prophecy signs signs
And also where to learn it still prophets and Khadija were really symptoms of epilepsy
4. know the other religions including his meeting with the monk bahira a monk on the Nestorian doctrine which was common in Mesopotamia between the Assyrians in particular
And it moved a lot and this monk in the Qur'anic Suras keys using certain words layer refers to the Messiah and his divinity
And exporters above are those used by Muhammad in Mecca
The meccan verses and they count holds these teachings are teachings for Christianity and Judaism
But after Muhammad's migration to Medina ابتداءت second stage stage of alienation of those teachings and copied Popes fighting and hatred of Jews and Christians
In light of this information we can see hatred for Muhammad to the Jews walnsari who cunningly them
He felt his victories on land and colonial ambitions and use God's name in its wars, including the war's call
And also must be forgotten
The devil delivered by Muhammad's words and retracted shortly after and is no algharatik al Ali and their intercession for cherished
And are the subject of the book the Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie
For more sources to learn Islam
Refer to the book priest and Prophet
Book Quran call nsranet
And balance of the right to
And the Satanic Verses
5. all the novels and stories of the prophets conveyed a distorted picture
The story of Joseph
The story of the birth of Christ and the crucifixion of Christ and the story of the exodus of Jews from Egypt
And also
6. the Qur'an does not know the meanings of some words that moved from a phase of walmaoun, isthmus
And other
All conclude that Mohammed has no divine science
It is contrary to all philosophies and spiritual truths and remain confined in alimh sexual side
And who wants to reach the truth of my words, that the following experience
Stories of the prophets in the Qur'an abrogated
And you will know that most of the Koran is the realities of the life of Muhammad and his actions and combat
And narrow some of the teachings and is replicated in the fighting verses by j Medina
Please use Google translate from Arabic into alakherii so that members know honestly what type
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
This is a myth. People figured out the world was not flat in Greece in 400 BCE. This knowledge was spread by Hellenism. Only ignorant peasant even entertained the idea the world was flat but anyone educated in Greece natural philosophy knew it was round due to observations of the horizon.
A friend
Muslims believe that their book the book of knowledge
But the book is not science
Because crammed themselves in a difficult position
When he spoke about the shape of the Earth
That Zulkarnain was the place where alshmsh sets the eye protector
This fabrication of ancient legends
Even the name Zulkarnain
It is a reference to Alexander of Macedon
This verse proves the ignorance of God of Muhammad
Bhaek is created
Does the God of Muhammad did not know how the Sun
And the Sun to not overlook about the universe but are absent from the side opposite the shines and this is science
Here in this Quranic verse explores believes this machine machine clueless as his creation
I think that these myths are not present in the body of the Christian books of the Holy Bible greetings
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Is it divine knowledge
To call the creator name cannot be accepted and is Guile
And feline
Sidestepping the bataoil Muslims in the Koran and is one of the names of Allaah in the Qur'aan
But the text in the label and understand Arabic language defines the meaning of the verse
And they plot the subtle and::::::: God says even malicious.
But in oblivion and back
Are the qualities that are worthy of the creator of the universe
Creator of the universe forgets a few words-
And copies it into a few period of time
I think that these teachings and qualities to the creator of the universe
Re-opening of the divine Sciences
But the desert science came from Mohammed and plagued the world to this day
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Peace be on all.
DHU'L QARNIAN:

[18:84] And they ask thee about Dhu’l Qarnain. Say, ‘I will certainly recite to you something of his story.’

https://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=572&region=EN&CR=E1,E2

Quranic stories are not only mention of previous matters, but they also serve as prophecies of future. That is the excellence.

In the story of Zulqarnain, about the Promised Reformer of latter days is being foretold. Qarn means Century, Qarnain, two centuries. Thus it is the man who sees two centuries. Ahmadiyya Muslim Promised Messiah saw 2 centuries from various ways.
 
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vskipper

Active Member
So you think the millions of Christians at the time were just told to believe in Jesus and knew nothing about the Bible? No they were taught the Gospels by the Church and the priesthood. Those that could read Latin or Greek could read the Bible. They could tell others who could not read by telling them what it says. This is called oral communication. There were Jewish and Christian tribes in Arabia hence there are people that knew the Torah, Talmud and Bible. Muhammad traveled as a merchant into Christian lands and learned about the Gnostic and Syriac Gospels. Hence why one can find common paraphrased verses in the Quran which is also in these Gospels.

Hebrews did assimilate stories from Babylon. Adam and Eve and the flood are Sumerian/Babylonian mythology with a written source from 2100 BCE. The case has already been made and proven in archaeology that this happened.

Do you have documentation of where he traveled? Is there anyway of verifying his direct conact with Christiand & Jews before the revelation. As I was saying. It is all unsubstantiated because his travels are almost unknown
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Do you have documentation of where he traveled? Is there anyway of verifying his direct conact with Christiand & Jews before the revelation. As I was saying. It is all unsubstantiated because his travels are almost unknown
Yes from the Qur'an
Because of the chill-revelations and revelations
Cannot be explained unless we refer to seerat wrote
And the explicit reference to Ibn Nawfal Pastor alnsrani
Because there is a difference between alnsrani and Christian
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
And also our guide incantations are Koranic lettering Koranic fence
When we use the scientific method we can open these incantations
We know from written and is centuries bahira
The quality without that Muhammad
We have revealed the complete scientific evidence
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Evidence of mental
How do you know he is a prophet and Khadija sender
Of told her that
Are you Khadija also Nabih and not known
How do you know that that appears to Khadija, Muhammad Usman and not demon
The people of quraish the Qurashi and she was on alnsranet
The pastor's cousin alnsrani Ibn Nawfal
 
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