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In Islam, the killing of an innocent is like the killing of all human kind. Whether it is a self-claimed Muslim or any other person that does the killing.
Excuse me, but how do you declare war on a religion.tmThEMaN said:I don't have a problem with Jews or Judaism just like i don't have a problem with any other religion/lack of religion.
As long as they don't declare war on Islam.
Excuse me, but how do you declare war on a religion.
Now unless people go around demolishing mosques and burning the Qur'an and burn effigy of Muhammad or Allah, I don't see how war can be declared on Islam.
Now, if you think that fighting against Palestinians, who may happened to be Muslims, then do Muslims think that the people are "Islam"? Or is the Palestinian state is "Islam"? Or do you think the land is part of Islam? Or is political entity or party, like the Hamas, be considered "Islam"?
I think the Israel-Palestinian issues are social and political ones, not religion. If you think they are the same, then you have to consider all the attacks around the world by terrorists are also religious as political issues, and I don't think you want to do that, because that give ammunition or fuel for non-Muslims attacking Islam as being not a religion of peace.
Sorry, but please define "Islam"? And explain how declaring war on Islam is possible?
TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Verses of Violence
Care to explain why all of those verses don't contradict the statement you just made?
These verses are against fighters and for the times of war, not against innocent people. Taking verses out of context is the best these anti-islam sites can do ... and for what purpose except hate and misguidance !!!.
Yes Islam does not accept aggression and Muslims will fight to defend themselves and their religion. We are a religion of peace, but not a religion of weakness.
My question to you is Do you get your knowledge from sites like this ?! if you are sincere in wanting the right answer, you can find many neutral sites, but you choose a site that's sole purpose is to misinform people about Islam.
That's fine and dandy for the Quranic verses that are obviously directing violence not necessarily at unbelievers, but the one's that do can not be excused because of the context that you are finding, or creating in order to justify your interpretation. Christians often do the same thing to dismiss or work around the nasty bits of their holy (lol, I almost typo'd that to say hoky) text.
The fact is, many Muslims find the context and interpretation to differ from yours, and in ways that justifies their violence. Why are you convinced that they are wrong? The text is just too vague, and to use the above word for it, cryptographic, to be able to decisively say what it means or justifies.
@ tmtheman
'You're right, the occupation of Palestine is political.'
Thats not true. If that were true, Why cant zionist israelis and its occupants go live in US ,UK, EU ? These countries are the biggest supporters of Israeli- war aggravations all over the world, then why a little piece of land, palestine, which is all destroyed and apparently has no future, why would the richest people in the world kill muslims and try to occupy their land? if there's no hidden agenda behind it, how can anyone explain decades of war and commotion among palestine and israel?
why are other countries of the world NOT fighting a war for political reason, inspite of the fact that they are very capable of doing so?
And finally, if the war of US was intended to find and neutralize weapons of mass destruction, which it never found, care to expalin whats the political agenda of US in Iraq? oil?
tmThEMaN said:A simple example is that if i talk badly about x religion just to ridicule it and upset its followers. Then i am declaring war on that religion and i don't expect love and roses from them.
If i debate that religion without intentionally hurting the followers, then i would simply expect people to correct me, or agree to disagree with me.
tmThEMaN said:These verses are against fighters and for the times of war, not against innocent people. Taking verses out of context is the best these anti-islam sites can do ... and for what purpose except hate and misguidance !!!.
The occupation of Iraq is to support Israel, to gain access to large natural resources, to expand their influence over the middle east region, therefore strengthening their world dominance . It is not a religious war against Muslims, but being a Muslim country, it was easy for them to gain support from their people and other countries. In other parts of the world, they did not have to invade them to place military bases.
You're right, the occupation of Palestine is political. What i said about war on Islam is not related to Palestine.
What i meant is that I don't have any problem with any PERSON no matter what his religion is, unless if he is attacking Islam. Note that i'm talking at a personal level, i'm not representing anyone but me.
A simple example is that if i talk badly about x religion just to ridicule it and upset its followers. Then i am declaring war on that religion and i don't expect love and roses from them.
If i debate that religion without intentionally hurting the followers, then i would simply expect people to correct me, or agree to disagree with me.
It is obvious that some people hate Islam and every Muslim and don't want to discuss and debate, they just want to ridicule and attack. I have zero respect for these people and i do have a lot of problems with them.
It is everybody's right to consider those who hate and attack him as enemies and treat them as such.