"Muslims must be held responsible for France terror attacks"

[Sultan Of Swing]

Murdoch says Muslims must be held responsible for France terror attacks | World news | The Guardian

"Rupert Murdoch has been strongly criticised after tweeting that “most Moslems” – even if peaceful – must be held responsible for the religion’s “growing jihadist cancer” in the wake of the terror attacks in France.

The News Corp boss added his influential voice to the global discussion on terror that has convulsed social media since gunmen slaughtered 12 people at the offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris on Wednesday."

The exact tweet from Murdoch was:
"Maybe most Moslems peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer they must be held responsible."

Thoughts? Do Muslims have a responsibility to "destroy their growing jihadist cancer", to condemn and speak out? Or is it nothing to do with the everyday Muslim, and a separate issue that invokes no such responsibility?

Should Muslims be holding marches of their own through big cities to show their condemnation of extremism?

I remember 150,000 people (vast majority of whom were Muslim) marched through London to protest against Israel and show solidarity with the Palestinians during the Israel-Palestine conflict last year. Where is the same outrage and enthusiasm to march and condemn Islamic extremism?

 

[Sunstone]

Why single out Muslims? I think every decent person -- Muslim or non-Muslim - has a responsibility to do what he or she reasonably can to destroy the threat.

 

[Union]

Indeed Muslim world in whole have the responsibilities to uproot these minor extremists .

In the very root of even with the peaceful Muslims there is a flow of intolerance exists . They can't tolerate if somebody criticizes Islam , Prophet Muhammad and/or Qur'an . Instead of responding these critics peacefully they became violent and demand slaughtering the doer . Why so ? How many times Christians and Jews demand slaughtering Muslim when they criticize Christianity , Judaism and/or Bible ? I do not know any of this case ever happened .

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Why single out Muslims? I think every decent person -- Muslim or non-Muslim - has a responsibility to do what he or she reasonably can to destroy the threat.

The reason why Muslims are singled out is because the terrorists specifically identify themselves as Muslims and interpret the Qu'ran to justify their actions. Do Muslims then have a responsibility to correct this interpretation? I for one do not have sufficient knowledge of the Qu'ran or the Muslim faith to try and correct extremists, not to mention my word wouldn't be taken seriously because I'm not a Muslim. Furthermore, many would-be extremists are raised going to mosque, learning from scholars, should more be done to teach them against such views?

 

[Sunstone]

The reason why Muslims are singled out is because the terrorists specifically identify themselves as Muslims and interpret the Qu'ran to justify their actions. Do Muslims then have a responsibility to correct this interpretation? I for one do not have sufficient knowledge of the Qu'ran or the Muslim faith to try and correct extremists, not to mention my word wouldn't be taken seriously because I'm not a Muslim. Furthermore, many would-be extremists are raised going to mosque, learning from scholars, should more be done to teach them against such views?

Of course Moderate Muslims have a reasonable responsibility! I've already said that. But what are you arguing for? Are you implying they have a greater than is reasonable responsibility?

 

[Godobeyer]

and Muslim excuted by defend for Charlie Hebdo

Charlie Hebdo: executed Muslim police officer, famous amateur video | ReligiousForums.com

 

[Sunstone]

Indeed Muslim world in whole have the responsibilities to uproot these minor extremists .

In the very root of even with the peaceful Muslims there is a flow of intolerance exists . They can't tolerate if somebody criticizes Islam , Prophet Muhammad and/or Qur'an . Instead of responding these critics peacefully they became violent and demand slaughtering the doer . Why so ? How many times Christians and Jews demand slaughtering Muslim when they criticize Christianity , Judaism and/or Bible ? I do not know any of this case ever happened .

Generalize much?

 

[Godobeyer]

So all the Christians are responsible for Nazi crimes ?

 

[Union]

Generalize much?

What I can say , I am a Muslim but I know it is a fact .

 

[Sunstone]

What I can say , I am a Muslim but I know it is a fact .

It's a fact that all Moderate Muslims are intolerant and call for killing people who criticize their religion or prophet? If that is indeed a fact, then I would think there were no truly moderate Muslims.

 

[FearGod]

I wonder who created Al qaeda in the first place.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Murdoch says Muslims must be held responsible for France terror attacks | World news | The Guardian

"Rupert Murdoch has been strongly criticised after tweeting that “most Moslems” – even if peaceful – must be held responsible for the religion’s “growing jihadist cancer” in the wake of the terror attacks in France

Rupert Murdoch is an ***.

 

[Sunstone]

I wonder who created Al qaeda in the first place.

That strikes me as irrelevant.

 

[Jumi]

Someone who fought Soviet Union.

 

[Godobeyer]

I am affraid next time someone will creat similaire thread like this one, are you agree to kill all the Muslims ? and you have 3 choice poll :

1-YES

2-WHY NOT

3-there is no other choice

 

[FearGod]

Murdoch is a strong supporter of Israel and its domestic policies,
and Murdoch jointly invested with Rothschild in a 5.5 percent stake in Genie Oil and Gas, which conducted shale gas and oil exploration in Israel.

Rupert Murdoch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[FearGod]

I am affraid next time someone will creat similaire thread like this one, are you agree to kill all the Muslims ? and you have 3 choice poll :

1-YES

2-WHY NOT

3-there is no other choice

Or do you think the world will be better without Islam.

 

[Godobeyer]

Or do you think the world will be better without Islam.

I remember this thread .

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I think a clearer case can be made that most religious people in general have responsibility here than "most Muslims".

IMO, the descending order of responsibility goes something like this:

- the killers themselves
- any accomplices/funders/etc.
- those who support this specific action
- those (of any religion) who support death as a punishment for blasphemy generally
- those (of any religion) who think that blasphemy should be a punishable offense at all
- those (of any religion) who think that it's acceptable for members of one religion to impose religious laws/standards on non-believers

... and way below that, the "social contract"-type general responsibility that anyone has to protect the well-being of society and the people who make it up.

An interesting article by a friend of a friend on religion-as-a-whole's role and responsibility here:

JustinBeach.ca: If we’re going to paint with a broad brush, what if we stop saying Muslim and switch to 'religious people'?

 

[Sunstone]

I think a clearer case can be made that most religious people in general have responsibility here than "most Muslims".

IMO, the descending order of responsibility goes something like this:

- the killers themselves
- any accomplices/funders/etc.
- those who support this specific action
- those (of any religion) who support death as a punishment for blasphemy generally
- those (of any religion) who think that blasphemy should be a punishable offense at all
- those (of any religion) who think that it's acceptable for members of one religion to impose religious laws/standards on non-believers

... and way below that, the "social contract"-type general responsibility that anyone has to protect the well-being of society and the people who make it up.

An interesting article by a friend of a friend on religion-as-a-whole's role and responsibility here:

JustinBeach.ca: If we’re going to paint with a broad brush, what if we stop saying Muslim and switch to 'religious people'?

Responsibility is not proportionate to culpability, is it?