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Muslims the least educated in the world?

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Hi Smart_Guy,

I might be misunderstanding, but it seems like your argument is:

- we can credit Islam when it's good stuff
- we should blame people when it's bad stuff

Some people would call this playing tennis without the net. :)

How is this different from your position?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I doubt the question is germaine, as it's unlikely a tribalistic societal model would be sustainable with large populations.

By looking at educational levels in islam, it factually has some percentage now does it not?

Why does islam breed the most terrorist?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I would not agree that US education is the best, atleast not here in California. It is not horrible either, but isn't great and is often straight jackeded by leftwing lunes. Giving more money to school administrators here has been proven as not the answer. And I say that in the perspective that my wife works as a sub-teacher for several years now.


I do notice that there are not very many Middle Eastern and Arab people in my field of high technology, not sure the reason for this. I think education in the UAE is quite good.
that a surpise

how US education is not the best in the world ?!!!

do you mean education in USA is not free ?

I am Algerian , i am talking about Algeria about this :
the Education is total free and obligation , from primary to University .



As far as crime, in the US, I can speak only for California and personally I consider crime a number one issue and I think it will be an issue in the 2016 election as it was in 1968-69. My gut tells me so from emails from others, comments on the street etc even if the legacy media does not report this concern. I am totally sick of the gangs, thugs, attitude, home invasions, gang grafitti, et all. I think there is good cause for capital punishment even though I am very peaceful. I am now using technology to protect my family and home.

I knewn US had high rate of crimes , i guess that because the gun is not ban , and media which encourage the voilence (movies, games )


btw , I can say Algeria is very safety than USA , because guns and gangs not allowed .

the gun is banned , the gangs not allowed , there is some thugs and steal homes

there is home security technology service here .
but I feel very safety that why i don't need anything to protect me or my family :)

btw
you would not believe this yesterday i forget to lock my car outdoor (it's was open for all the night) .
 

outhouse

Atheistically
and media which encourage the voilence (movies, games )



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Not enough to have an actual statistic. Your factually wrong there.


Media, movies, and games do not promote much violence here. Its not like reality were islam is giving 9 year old children AK 47's


Most violence is committed by immigrants 60%-70% but thanks for doing credible research before you spew out opinion
 

ZooGirl02

Well-Known Member
It is primarily a geopolitical thing as are the disproportionately negative statistics regarding poverty, education, and crime in communities of color in the United States.

I would have to agree with this considering that the Golden Age of Islam is very highly spoken of.

Islamic Golden Age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From what I understand, learning and knowledge was very highly espoused during this time period in the Islamic world.
 

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I would have to agree with this considering that the Golden Age of Islam is very highly spoken of.

Islamic Golden Age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From what I understand, learning and knowledge was very highly espoused during this time period in the Islamic world.

The question is, what happened and why isn't learning and education/knowledge highly espoused in Islamic culture since the Golden Age?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The question is, what happened and why isn't learning and education/knowledge highly espoused in Islamic culture since the Golden Age?

Thank you.

Sort of the threads point, even if I stumbled on it doing so :p honesty is important.

Could you imagine where we would be today, if all religion stopped at that point when it started to head south?


Flying cars, space travel, advanced medicine, who knows.


Instead were muddled in extremist trying to drag islam back to the 7th century, YEC christians fighting common knowledge and stone cold facts of evolution.

And I know those bobble headed hat wearing Jews at the wall are not innocent I tell you :D
 

Shad

Veteran Member
that a surpise

how US education is not the best in the world ?!!!

do you mean education in USA is not free ?

The issue is the standards of education and funding. There are lot of issues but from my view the lack of one on one time between individual students and teachers is a primary issue. The curriculum is also far behind in some areas. For example biology is high-school, 16-18, in America is taught at 12-14 in Canada. Funding speaks for itself as money makes the world turn.

the Education is total free and obligation , from primary to University .
University in America is not free, nor Canada. While there are a number of grants, scholarships and loans which are non repayable the majority of student funding is in the form of bank loans. Depending upon interest rates these loans can be a huge burden or certain paths of study untenable due to the financial situation of the student and that of their family.

I knewn US had high rate of crimes , i guess that because the gun is not ban , and media which encourage the voilence (movies, games )
Crime rates have been going down for years in America despite the increase of violence in the media and entertainment. Correlation does not equal causation. You treat a dangerous stereotype which is often used against many groups.

btw , I can say Algeria is very safety than USA , because guns and gangs not allowed .
The crime rate per capita is higher in Algeria than the USA. Safety varies due to locale. Your relative safety is isolated to your locale. If placed in an area with high crime rates your locale is not longer considered safe.

there is home security technology service here .
but I feel very safety that why i don't need anything to protect me or my family :)
You rely on a false sense of security. If someone is fully motivated to cause your harm all your system does is notify the authorities where to pick up the body. Without electricity your system fails and you are defenseless.

btw
you would not believe this yesterday i forget to lock my car outdoor (it's was open for all the night) .
I leave my house doors unlocked all the time, never been robbed. However I live in an area of low crime. Leave your car in an area with a high rate of crime and see what happens.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Does this lack of education promote violence and terrorism due to poverty associated with ignorance?

Does religious belief promote this lack of education?

OR does lack of education promote religious belief?


Muslim Statistics (Education and Employment) - WikiIslam)


Of the 1.4 billion Muslims 800 million are illiterate (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). In Christendom, adult literacy rate stands at 78 percent


40% of muslims can read

almost 80% of Christians can read


That is a two to one ratio.


The 57-member countries of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) have around 500 universities compared with more than 5,000 universities in the US and more than 8,000 in India.


Nearly half of all women in the Arab world are illiterate


Three-quarters of the 100 million people unable to read or write in the 21 Arab countries are aged between 15 and 45 years old, Alecso said in a statement.


Does this muslim ignorance breed terrorism???

You add this ignorance combined with the religions required fanaticism and fundamentalism, and the recipe for terrorism is obvious



Is it time for the world to address this issue and help educate these people because their own cultures do not promote education and knowledge at normal levels?

Can we even battle terrorism with education??

I think you need to be much more discerning in your source material if you intend to make any credible factual claims.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Is that honest or guess????


Your #35 out of 131 countries. lower number means higher amount of crime


USA is #45 that means your country has more crime

Countries Compared by Crime > Crime levels. International Statistics at NationMaster.com

this site is had no relation to the reality . and absolutly wrong had static , and it's post fake statics ,had notice they don't had references for their claims .

I told you why , because in USA the guns is allowed , so the possibilty of the crimes is higher ,in Algeria it's guns is banned .

so that site is lieing and make up the reality .
 
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Monk Of Reason

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It is the thread owner view that there is a relationship between illiteracy in ones nation and terrorism.

The existence of a terrorist organization in a nation like Japan proves him wrong.

It is the rampant and vastness of the organizations and the power they hold. Specifically that it is a religious organization based upon the presupposition of Islam being "correct" would mean that lower education levels would create a more suitable soil for such organizations. Highly educated or even somewhat educated people would have a far better chance to have meaningful objections and carve out a way for peace. Where in the modern world do you have terrorist organizations being major players in governments where the general population is educated?

By the way education means far far more than just literacy.
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
Does this lack of education promote violence and terrorism due to poverty associated with ignorance?

Does religious belief promote this lack of education?

OR does lack of education promote religious belief?


Muslim Statistics (Education and Employment) - WikiIslam)


Of the 1.4 billion Muslims 800 million are illiterate (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). In Christendom, adult literacy rate stands at 78 percent


40% of muslims can read

almost 80% of Christians can read


That is a two to one ratio.


The 57-member countries of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) have around 500 universities compared with more than 5,000 universities in the US and more than 8,000 in India.


Nearly half of all women in the Arab world are illiterate


Three-quarters of the 100 million people unable to read or write in the 21 Arab countries are aged between 15 and 45 years old, Alecso said in a statement.


Does this muslim ignorance breed terrorism???

You add this ignorance combined with the religions required fanaticism and fundamentalism, and the recipe for terrorism is obvious


Is it time for the world to address this issue and help educate these people because their own cultures do not promote education and knowledge at normal levels?

Can we even battle terrorism with education??

Response: It is not a coincidence that poverty stricken and oppressed societies or societies that result from poverty and oppression will lack in educational progress. Even in the U.S., minority races such as African Americans lack in education in comparison to Whites. Not because of genetics, but because of a history of oppression and discrimination by White Supremacists.

So when you title a thread stating the Muslims are least educated, when Muslim nations came from oppression by the West, and the West became educated by learning from early Muslim civilizations, then it is clear that religion is not the cause of lack of education. It is oppression, as proven by the low educational level of African-Americans in the U.S. A people formerly oppressed by the White Race.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
It is oppression, as proven by the low educational level of African-Americans in the U.S. A people formerly oppressed by the White Race.


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Severe ignorance.

Do you even know what year it is? :slap:


We have a black president, how oppressed are they now? :facepalm:
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
Severe ignorance.

Do you even know what year it is? :slap:


We have a black president, how oppressed are they now? :facepalm:

Response: So because we have Black President, that is supposed to ignore the fact African-Americans are the least in education due to White Supremacists?

Yes, the ignorance in your statements is severe.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
, that is supposed to ignore the fact African-Americans are the least in education due to White Supremacists?

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:facepalm: So ignorant.


Provide sources to prove your point or admit a lack of honesty.


Do you even know what year it is?


Whit supremacy stops no one in todays world or they would be arrested on the spot.

As to where muslims are committing genocide today in the middle east, and raping and stealing little girls. :facepalm:
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
:facepalm: So ignorant.


Provide sources to prove your point or admit a lack of honesty.


Do you even know what year it is?


Whit supremacy stops no one in todays world or they would be arrested on the spot.

As to where muslims are committing genocide today in the middle east, and raping and stealing little girls. :facepalm:

Response: Requesting a need for a source to show you that Whites use to beat on African-Americans and that both crime and education are the worst in these societies is clearly ignorant. Do you even know what year it is? White supremacists are the reason for the civil rights movement that led to the freedom of African Americans. Only a White Supremacist would suggest otherwise and ask for a source.
 
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