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My GOD will MURDER and DESTROY you! Care to convert? (for your own safety, of course)

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
When you see the wording in the Greek lexicons one finds facts= There are 2 spots in NT where more than 1 being is called God or god= John 1:1, 2 Cor 4:4. At both spots the true God is called Theon= God, Both others the Word and satan are called Theos= god when in the same paragraph with Theon. Its why there is a difference. There is no Greek to English rule that makes Theos-God for one and god for another in the same paragraph with Theon. Its error in most translations-god means has godlike qualities. The supposed bible scholars know its fact, they refuse to say anything. Why you ask? Because all those religions using God to the Word would be proved false. They would lose the billions of dollars they get tax free year after year, not to mention 2 billion humans suing them for taking their money when they do know its fact.
Thus is the unfortunate reality of the situation. Bias Greek scholars condemn the nwt. Yet they were the only translators to put Gods name back where God willed it to be in over 7000 places. Catholicism removed Gods name against Gods will by satans will. Whose will does your religion support on the matter of Gods name? Especially in light of the Lords prayer where Jesus shows all involved that his Fathers name is the most important #1 issue for all involved.
You skimmed right over my words "if it "speaks" with God's love for mankind, all's good." And you've already presented your argument of the use of Greek theos, so I'm not sure why you've readdressed this point in JW belief. Is it pulling at your conscience?

You have not, however, addressed my question: Standing before God without your Bible or religion's support systems, is your faith secure enough in your heart to answer God's questions?

I don't disparage any method of finding God. I think the JW way of offering Bible study in one's home is wonderful. I do, however, advise caution that God is the primary find, and that is personal, IMB, not systematic. So at some point in time, the system needs to be left much like we leave elementary schools behind once we have the basucs and tools of study accomplished. And in high school, and even college where applicable, we begin to choose our own direction of education.

Can you respond without going to jw.org?
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Sorry, but I don't appreciate the biblical commandment to execute witches or seize infants and dashing them against the rocks, or God ordering the total annihilation of the entire populace of enemy nations of Israel, which included men, women, children, infants, and even all of their animals. I particularly dislike the scriptures about how humanity was condemned and punished for alleged "sins" against God, as well as idle threats of God's wrath and eternal damnation for alleged sins against God. Finally, I don't appreciate all the stories of violence and atrocities that I've read in the Bible, perpetrated by a God who is said to be loving, merciful, and just. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I don't think anyone should derive their sense of morality from the Bible.
And that isn't anywhere close to what I said! I can appreciate the history of certain societies and cultures without adhering to their beliefs. I can emphasize with characters in fiction and real people in history without physically, mentally, or emotionally living the same circumstances.

I believe when we lose, or self-deny, our ability to walk in another's steps with compassion and understanding we begin to become stagnant.

I can appreciate King David's lamentations in Psalms and feel his connection to God as he conceived Him, without seeing my vision of God as being the same. I can "feel" your disappointment in the God you once believed in without finding similar disappointments. And your last sentence:
"I don't think anyone should derive their sense of morality from the Bible." That depends on which passages.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I find that it's Christian love

If you want to see an example of Christian love, start with my linked post and then read the posts that come before and after it on that page.

 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
If you want to see an example of Christian love, start with my linked post and then read the posts that come before and after it on that page.


"Disturbed mind and sick spirit?" I would have reported that, it in no way reflects the ideals of the forum.
 

servant1

Active Member
The word god is derived from a 6th century German word "gudan" so no bible that uses the word god is true to the original. And John 1:1 is obviously mistranslated after after the 500s ad
its misleading 2 billion humans into serving a non existent God. Misleading them into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily.
 

servant1

Active Member
You skimmed right over my words "if it "speaks" with God's love for mankind, all's good." And you've already presented your argument of the use of Greek theos, so I'm not sure why you've readdressed this point in JW belief. Is it pulling at your conscience?

You have not, however, addressed my question: Standing before God without your Bible or religion's support systems, is your faith secure enough in your heart to answer God's questions?

I don't disparage any method of finding God. I think the JW way of offering Bible study in one's home is wonderful. I do, however, advise caution that God is the primary find, and that is personal, IMB, not systematic. So at some point in time, the system needs to be left much like we leave elementary schools behind once we have the basucs and tools of study accomplished. And in high school, and even college where applicable, we begin to choose our own direction of education.

Can you respond without going to jw.org?
None serving a non existent God are in Gods favor. Its satan posing as all the false gods being served on earth, like this-2Cor 11:12-15--All mortals have love, even those in Noah's day loved their family's and friends.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
its misleading 2 billion humans into serving a non existent God. Misleading them into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily.


:facepalm:

Kill them all, the bible says god would so are you going to behave as god would?
 

servant1

Active Member
:facepalm:

Kill them all, the bible says god would so are you going to behave as god would?
God owns all creation. I don't.
God is trying to save them. He had his son start the most important work in history-Luke 10,, Acts 20:20-- Its being done to the end( Matt 24:14) Most are like those in Noah's day and laugh at truth.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
God owns all creation. I don't.
God is trying to save them. He had his son start the most important work in history-Luke 10,, Acts 20:20-- Its being done to the end( Matt 24:14) Most are like those in Noah's day and laugh at truth.

In your opinion, which you are entitled to.
Not in mine.
 
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