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My personal TOE

outhouse

Atheistically
One thing that goes in favor that we still don't have exact theory of the universe is when two particles become "entangled," anything that happens to one will be experienced by the other, even if they're on opposite sides of the universe.

Some fun stuff there ;)

Before 1960's Black holes were regarded as just theoretical curiosities.

Yes

I know why there is value perceived in ST. Juts not on board
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Not sure what this topic has to do with 'Science and Religion'?

It is science. Many people always try to inject religion in there somewhere.

People think god did all that, I'm providing a demi plausible explanation for the worlds greatest mystery.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
It is science. Many people always try to inject religion in there somewhere.

People think god did all that, I'm providing a demi plausible explanation for the worlds greatest mystery.
Look at the DIR you placed this in:mad:
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Look at the DIR you placed this in:mad:

Yes science and religion. Religious people appose this explanation do they not?

Its OK I know you hate anything that uses natural academic explanations. Sorry not everything includes a supernatural explanation. [none credible]
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Yes science and religion. Religious people appose this explanation do they not?

Its OK I know you hate anything that uses natural academic explanations. Sorry not everything includes a supernatural explanation. [none credible]
Amazing......which religious people and what do the oppose?:rolleyes:
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Here is my view which is as much a guess as a guess can get :D also applies to gravity. Its my TOE.

Your welcome to tear this down, and point out possible errors in my imagination.

We know atoms are hollow, it is a visual mind screw that object are solid to our 3 dimensional brains.

BH = black hole

I believe/imagine the atoms are broken down to electrons and protons and separated, not any smaller in a BH. I believe they are squished together causing the unknown reaction in the singularity. Basically the space has been removed and we have multiple small elements in different degrees depending on where they reside in the singularity. Elements meaning not matter as we know it, but still matter. An unknown atomic structure that is still an energy plant like a sun but on an extreme scale of gravity that changes atomic structures. Sun equals atoms still being able to hold their typical structure. BH meaning gravity so strong it has broken down atomic structure.

So take that and I address gravity as being created from the combination of dark matter/energy as being the fabric of our space, and that inside of atoms before they are broken down this fabric is naturally compressed, and in that when enough are compiled together we can measure the weak force. The weak force is cause by quantum entanglement, as when the fabric of space is compressed even if just slightly in an atom, pulls its counter parts of the fabric outside the atom towards the atom. The force so weak it Is not really measurable on its own. But with large masses of atoms this stretching of the fabric can be measured.

The reason a BH shows much more gravity then a sun is because as the space of the atoms has been reduced to nothing, the fabric of space is puled inwards exponentially. [if I worded that properly] then just compiled atoms.

Just my imagination.
Sorry bud...but atoms are not hollow...have you not heard of zpe....it fills all space and has extremely high energy density. Check out the Casimir Effect?

From Dr Mead's Patent..

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The existence of zero point electromagnetic radiation was discovered in 1958 by the Dutch physicist M. J. Sparnaay. Mr. Sparnaay continued the experiments carried out by Hendrik B. G. Casimir in 1948 which showed the existence of a force between two uncharged parallel plates which arose from electromagnetic radiation surrounding the plates in a vacuum. Mr. Sparnaay discovered that the forces acting on the plates arose from not only thermal radiation but also from another type of radiation now known as classical electromagnetic zero point radiation. Mr. Sparnaay determined that not only did the zero point electromagnetic radiation exist in a vacuum but also that it persisted even at a temperature of absolute zero. Because it exists in a vacuum, zero point radiation is homogeneous and isotropic as well as ubiquitous. In addition, since zero point radiation is also invariant with respect to Lorentz transformation, the zero point radiation spectrum has the characteristic that the intensity of the radiation at any frequency is proportional to the cube of that frequency. Consequently, the intensity of the radiation increases without limit as the frequency increases resulting in an infinite energy density for the radiation spectrum. With the introduction of the zero point radiation into the classical electron theory, a vacuum at a temperature of absolute zero is no longer considered empty of all electromagnetic fields. Instead, the vacuum is now considered as filled with randomly fluctuating fields having the zero point radiation spectrum. The special characteristics of the zero point radiation which are that it has a virtually infinite energy density and that it is ubiquitous (even present in outer space) make it very desirable as an energy source. However, because high energy densities exist at very high radiation frequencies and because conventional methods are only able to convert or extract energy effectively or efficiently only at lower frequencies at which zero point radiation has relatively low energy densities, effectively tapping this energy source has been believed to be unavailable using conventional techniques for converting electromagnetic energy to electrical or other forms of easily useable energy. Consequently, zero point electromagnetic radiation energy which may potentially be used to power interplanetary craft as well as provide for society's other needs has remained unharnessed.
 
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outhouse

Atheistically
Sorry bud...but atoms are not hollow...

The article does not say they are not :rolleyes:

...have you not heard of zpe

Yes and you fail epically

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Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
The article does not say they are not :rolleyes:

Yes and you fail epically

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Ok...read your third line of your post I quoted....you say...."We know atoms are hollow, it is a visual mind screw that object are solid to our 3 dimensional brains." :rolleyes:
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Atoms are hollow

6 grains of salt is all the matter in comparison to a tennis court, if you cannot find hollow, your not looking.
Ok...so now I pointed it out, you change your tune and say they are hollow again.... Atoms are not hollow....they are full of zpe...with virtual particles and anti-particles bubbling up in the intra-atomic space around the sub atomic particles of the atom...
 
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