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My Problem With the "God Did It" Explanation for the Existence of the Universe

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
you believe your sight has a limit right ?
and your hearing also has a limit right?

why can't you accept that your mind ALSO has a limit ?
we believe GOD IS BEYOND COMPREHENSION
I don't think this is a good answer. First off, it's not responsive to the question: MSizer's point had nothing to do with the fact that human knowledge is limited; it had to do with taking a general principle (or something that's asserted as a general principle, anyhow) and asking what its logical implications would be.

Second, your response is internally contradictory. If God is beyond comprehension, then any claims you make about God (e.g. that he exists) are baseless.

I agree that there are probably many things in the universe that are beyond the limits of human knowledge. However, we don't know anything about any of them. We don't even know what they are.
 
With everything else having a limit, why would one conclude that God does not?

Beyond comprehension?
Seems to me that you are in trouble.
Either you and every other theist is lieing/guessing/making things up about what god wants, thinks and feels, or God is not beyond comprehension.

GOD is different from the creation because he is the creator so GOD can't be like any thing we know.....
 

McBell

Unbound
GOD is different from the creation because he is the creator so GOD can't be like any thing we know.....
Now you are merely talking in nonsense circles.

Honestly, I am disappointed.
I thought it would take longer before you were reduced to nonsensical circles.
 

MSizer

MSizer
GOD is different from the creation because he is the creator so GOD can't be like any thing we know.....

Aymen, you're going in circles and you haven't provided anything yet that has stood up against even simple logic. This post is no different than the one you made at the beginning, which we already exposed as hollow (by several of us no less).

This is like a game of tennis, and every time I hit the ball back, you run and move the net.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Hey guys!!!!!!

ALL things move in circles!!!!!

And if God hadn't been there...at the moment when the singularity went 'bang'.....all things would be moving in straight lines.

It is the rotation, the orbits, the spirals that speak the existence of God!
 
Aymen, you're going in circles and you haven't provided anything yet that has stood up against even simple logic. This post is no different than the one you made at the beginning, which we already exposed as hollow (by several of us no less).

This is like a game of tennis, and every time I hit the ball back, you run and move the net.

well there is nothing i can do .... if i bring a scientific fact from the Quran your gonna find a way to reject it or go around it because you don't believe that the QURAN is 1400 YEARS OLD
 

McBell

Unbound
Hey guys!!!!!!

ALL things move in circles!!!!!

And if God hadn't been there...at the moment when the singularity went 'bang'.....all things would be moving in straight lines.

It is the rotation, the orbits, the spirals that speak the existence of God!
seems like someone been dipping into the ceremonial wine a wee bit early.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I think the question begs, if none of this complexity could have come about without a god bringing it about, then that god must be more complex than the creation. Hence...what more complex thing brought about "god"?
 

McBell

Unbound
well there is nothing i can do .... if i bring a scientific fact from the Quran your gonna find a way to reject it or go around it because you don't believe that the QURAN is 1400 YEARS OLD
Fact is you CANNOT bring scientific FACT from the Koran.
The Koran does not have any scientific fact.

Hopefully you will not try to demonstrate your efficiency in the Forer Effect here in this thread.
I mean, this line of "reasoning" has been repeatedly refuted in numerous other threads.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
well there is nothing i can do .... if i bring a scientific fact from the Quran your gonna find a way to reject it or go around it because you don't believe that the QURAN is 1400 YEARS OLD

1. The Quran is not a science book, it is a mythology book.

2. Doesn't make any difference if the book is 1400 years old or not, it's not like that is old enough to witness the creation of the universe and attest to it.
 

MSizer

MSizer
Hey guys!!!!!!

ALL things move in circles!!!!!

And if God hadn't been there...at the moment when the singularity went 'bang'.....all things would be moving in straight lines.

It is the rotation, the orbits, the spirals that speak the existence of God!

Exactly how? My ferrets move in a sporadic chaotic fashion. There are things surely in the universe which we don't know about, therefore how do you claim to know they move in circles. And even if I granted you that, how does this in any way argue that God even exists let alone created it all? I'm disappointed in this thread. We're only getting answers like Mestemia pointed out, "purple".

By the way, if you remember that little force called gravity, it does a pretty good job of explaining things moving in circles. what a disapointment this has been.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Nor is anything you have posted thus far in this thread.

On the contrary.....
Or perhaps you would to see again....cause and effect...at length.

I think we've done this under a different thread topic.

You didn't do well then.
It won't be any easier for you now.
 

MSizer

MSizer
well there is nothing i can do .... if i bring a scientific fact from the Quran your gonna find a way to reject it or go around it because you don't believe that the QURAN is 1400 YEARS OLD

Of course I believe the Koran is (roughly) 1400 years old. Which is exactly why it contains no science.
 
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