Again, the evidence you've presented is....uh....oh....once again, no evidence.
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My question to Dem Voters: do you like banking and financial élites?
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Samael_Khan
Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
You seem to be talking about tactics here. Trump just doesn't need the tactics of the Democrats because he created a cult of personality. He is a super entertaining character.
But when it comes to goals and such, both Republicans and Democrats are aligned with the banking elite and the only reason one of them would dethrone the elite is to replace them. Voters are just puppets and are a currency for both parties to attain power. The only person, I think, who actually cared about the working class and socialism was Bernie Sanders, and the republican voters didn't care about him at all.
Koldo
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That's true.
On the other hand... dems cannot pretend they are on the average Joe's side...because they are ordered by a certain circle of technocrats, to implement economic legislations that help banks exploit the average Joe's work, so the average Joe can save nothing.
I have already watched it...
That's not the only occasion.
He has his own ideas...and by the way, he's not totally wrong. Socialism implemented by incompetent people can be destructive.
You need to study and to have a functioning plan.
One question.
If you had to choose as political mentor between Rousseff and Milei, whom would you choose?
(I doubt you'll answer).
Koldo
Outstanding Member
He is 100% opposed to socialism. No matter if competent people are involved or not.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Dilma Rousseff, without a shadow of doubt.
I disagree with him, then.
That's a relief...
very competent woman about macroeconomics.
But when there are so many enemies and élites...well...
I don't really see that any major political party or faction is really for socialism in any significant way. Although they're not exactly laissez-faire anarcho-capitalists either. Most factions appear to support a mixed economy, with varying degrees of public and private ownership. They also seem to differ on tax rates and to what degree government regulation is useful or warranted in the private sector.
They both ostensibly want to regulate the private sector and even people's private lives, yet in different areas, depending on their cultural beliefs and moral values. They're never really that consistent with their own stated principles, instead choosing to live within a morass of different shades of gray and expecting everyone to recognize those various shades.
Koldo
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I agree with you. However, and @Estro Felino might not be aware of this, whenever there is a major social program being proposed at the federal level you can count on the Democratic party being the one who proposes it (and at least partially supports it) and the Republican party opposing it: universal health care and student loan forgiveness, for example.
I think it was the Republicans who favored such policies at first, and then the Democrats just jumped on that bandwagon when they found they couldn't win without doing that. Kind of sad, in a way, although maybe it was the practical move to bring them back from the doldrums they were experiencing in the 1980s.
But ever since then, I recognized that they're both kind of stuck in the same game and they're just players trying to angle for position. Even politicians who might go in for the right reasons, they'll still play the game and justify it by saying that they can at least get some good for their own district or constituency. If they have to suck up to the wealthy to get them to support school lunch programs or aid to the poor, then they might justify themselves on that basis.
I think they took the average Joe for granted. They don't even live in the same world as the average Joe.
The Fed is in crisis? No, Trump being elected is a crisis.
Trump is critical of the Fed chief? Irrelevant, Trump is an idiot. Trump thinks tariffs are a good idea. What the Fed has done has helped reduce the inflation in the USA, and helped stabilize the economy. Trump wants wants easy money at cheap rates, and this will fuel the enomony and inflation. This might be good for big business in the shiort term, but the middle class and poor will face higher prices and likley a recession if the economy gets too hot. Trump is an idiot, like a cat that gets distracted by a toy for 5 minutes.
The Monetarist nonsense I read every day.
Yeah...sure. I believe in neo-Keynesian ideas.
Thanks for letting us know that neo-Keynesian ideas are horrible and should not be implemented.
Money exists in order to be spent.
More money = more demand for goods and services = more profits for businesses
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Talks about the central bank are often above my pay grade, however... Milei opposes Argentina having a central bank and I think this would turn into a massive problem. Given Milei's proposal to use USD as the standard currency, it would turn Argentina into a country with an economy that can be completely screwed by the USA...
I don't think there can be a honest and healthy debate with Milei.
I would ask him: Argentina produces so much food, it is the number one in the meat market, but there are still millions of poor people.
Maybe the currency, the National Bank are just irrelevant, because the problem here is : maldistribution of wealth (GDP)?
That is, that the billions gained through the production are hidden, or subtracted or in the hands of very very very few people.
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