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My Spiritual Journey

Audie

Veteran Member
I guess I wouldn't even be able to recognize a spiritual experience, if I had one. I'm not sure if I know what that means.
As so many people have some form of "spirituality" (and if that is what Michael Shermer calls "agenticity", it is an evolutionary beneficial trait), I consider myself a mutant. I can't remember ever having believed in invisible entities, like ghosts, the Easter bunny or gods.
If there were such a thing as a "god region" in the brain, it would be easy to find by looking, what is missing in my brain.
What's the diff between spiritualism and superstition.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I never had one.


That might sound flippant, but this is a serious thread.
I'm curious if anyone else here has never experienced
what appears to be so common.

I decided to equate spiritualism with mental health. So spiritualism was whatever one did to improve their mental outlook. Mainly seeking happiness or self-worth.

Exercise and diet deal with physical health. Spirituality deal with mental health. Things like meditation, non-attachment and learning not to be self-destructive.

Some folks need to believe in Gods or magical stuff to be happy. So I suppose my "spiritual journey" to happiness was learning to accept the world as it is instead of how I thought it ought to be.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I decided to equate spiritualism with mental health. So spiritualism was whatever one did to improve their mental outlook. Mainly seeking happiness or self-worth.

Exercise and diet deal with physical health. Spirituality deal with mental health. Things like meditation, non-attachment and learning not to be self-destructive.

Some folks need to believe in Gods or magical stuff to be happy. So I suppose my "spiritual journey" to happiness was learning to accept the world as it is instead of how I thought it ought to be.
Dogs are more spiritual than people.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Yeah, I thought about life, religion, Gods, science for some time and debated with what I had learnt from life, religion and science - and finally turned a strong atheist. It did not take very long. The climax lasted just about five minutes.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I guess I wouldn't even be able to recognize a spiritual experience, if I had one. I'm not sure if I know what that means.
As so many people have some form of "spirituality" (and if that is what Michael Shermer calls "agenticity", it is an evolutionary beneficial trait), I consider myself a mutant. I can't remember ever having believed in invisible entities, like ghosts, the Easter bunny or gods.
If there were such a thing as a "god region" in the brain, it would be easy to find by looking, what is missing in my brain.
This song is about an ultimate spiritual experience that I believe is most most rare. I would call the someone who experience it saint (Christian), pirs (sufi) and satpurush (Hindu)

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I decided to equate spiritualism with mental health.
I must be lacking in mental health.
Exercise and diet deal with physical health. Spirituality deal with mental health. Things like meditation, non-attachment and learning not to be self-destructive.

Some folks need to believe in Gods or magical stuff to be happy. So I suppose my "spiritual journey" to happiness was learning to accept the world as it is instead of how I thought it ought to be.
Useful.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yeah, I thought about life, religion, Gods, science for some time and debated with what I had learnt from life, religion and science - and finally turned a strong atheist. It did not take very long. The climax lasted just about five minutes.
I think the crux for me lay in its transformative quality for which I discovered there is nothing unique or special going on that differed from anything else out there that would stand out in any way that would be worthy of note.

For me I realized there was no actual light of the world or salt of the earth, and was quite happy in leaving the stained glass rose colored world I had lived in for three decades.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think there's a deep overlap tho superstition,
broad and nebulous as it is, is still has a considerably
narrower meaning than under the vasty umbrella of
" spiritual".
"Spiritual" as a term obviously carries several interpretations with it.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I never had one.


That might sound flippant, but this is a serious thread.
I'm curious if anyone else here has never experienced
what appears to be so common.
I am not sure what qualifies as a spiritual experience but in my search for truth I had many core beliefs challenged and overturned.

Once disillusioned by my parents' religion, I started a search for the correct religion. I was an avid reader and Mythologies and Science were favorites of mine, so as I researched other religions mythology and science caused me to find many flaws. This got me on the idea of finding the truth. During a multiyear dive into my belief's vs truth's, I came upon many life changing experiences. The results was yeah, I should have known that but the experiences I got from proving it to myself worth it. I've learned so much and changed so much.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am not sure what qualifies as a spiritual experience but in my search for truth I had many core beliefs challenged and overturned.
I never searched for truth.
I remember eagerly considering the possibility.
But upon further consideration, I couldn't find
any premises that would qualify.
Oh, the folly of youth!
Once disillusioned by my parents' religion, I started a search for the correct religion. I was an avid reader and Mythologies and Science were favorites of mine, so as I researched other religions mythology and science caused me to find many flaws. This got me on the idea of finding the truth. During a multiyear dive into my belief's vs truth's, I came upon many life changing experiences. The results was yeah, I should have known that but the experiences I got from proving it to myself worth it. I've learned so much and changed so much.
I kept science & truth separate.
Only math smacks of having truth.
But based only upon postulates.
Still....great stuff!
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I never had one.


That might sound flippant, but this is a serious thread.
I'm curious if anyone else here has never experienced
what appears to be so common.
I suppose for me it was simply as to releasing myself from the default religious belief imposed upon me at school, given there wasn't much at home even if my mother did seemingly expect me to go the Methodist Chapel not too far away on a Sunday. This was about age eight perhaps and didn't get off the ground since I preferred to be out playing with all the other kids. By the time I had left primary school (aged 11-12), I seemed to have doubts - finding out about so many other religious beliefs - so Christianity was not high on any agenda. Later, when I looked at what I was expected to believe, as components to any religious belief or similar, these all fell away too - as to not providing enough proper evidence or just being not so plausible.

So, apart from God disappearing (mostly), so did all the other things that, to me, just didn't have sufficient evidence. Bye bye souls, spirituality, the afterlife, the paranormal, ghosts, miracles, etc., and they never returned if I ever did believe in any of these. And I did look into quite a few of these and the evidence presented. I also began to be more interested in science, psychology, anthropology, animal behaviour, etc., and especially how humans experienced life, together with likely explanations for why we tend to believe certain things and not others. All of what I found explained things better than religious explanations and didn't come with some awkward things that I could never believe.
 
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