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Myths/Rumors about your religion that just aren't true.

Hema

Sweet n Spicy
Hinduism and Caste system - In my country, Hindus do not have this caste system where some are lower caste and untouchable. I think the caste system is more practised in India. However, there are also many Indians living in India who do not advocate the caste system either. Hinduism does not promote one being as being higher than the other. The Bhagvad Gita says that God is manifested in all of creation. Therefore, he is equally present in people of all races, religions and social standings. I think the caste is totally misunderstood and blown out of proportion. Caste is really what people do in their daily lives. For eg. there are labourers, business dealers, warriors etc. It simply means that we have different roles in society. It doesn't mean that one is more important. If the garbage collectors went on strike, it would be a huge inconvenience for many people. Furthermore, when the Lord came in his Avatar of Shri Ram, he ate food which was previously bitten by his devotee - an old woman named Savari. For people who believe in the untouchable castes, eating food from such people would be forbidden. Shri Ram blessed his devotee. So many were not as fortunate as she was. So, if the Lord openly accepts a low caste woman, why should any ordinary mortal look down on his/her brothers and sisters?
 

Ðanisty

Well-Known Member
Luciferianism

No, we don't sell our souls
No, we don't kill animals or people
No, we don't blame God for all of our personal problems
No, we do not hate Christ
No, believing in Lucifer does not limit us to the Christian paradigm
No, we are not all goth
No, we don't see Lucifer or ourselves as evil
Luciferianism is not about darkness...it's about light.
Not all Freemasons are Luciferian, but some Luciferians are Freemasons
 

uumckk16

Active Member
Katzpur said:
:D Yeah, don't you wish! Here is an actual quote:

-Once becoming gods and goddesses, they are required to populate their own planets. Good mormon women/girl's desires to become goddesses and be "eternally pregnant". To be able to look down on the planet and see all the offspring and say, "That's mine. I populated it." Endless celestial sex. This is not talked about openly by mormons...it's "embarrassing" to talk about.

And here is the website: http://www.a-voice.org/discern/mormon.htm
People are stupid. That website is painfully ignorant. :rolleyes:

Plus, why would anyone want to be eternally pregnant?? That's just plain silly :p
 

James the Persian

Dreptcredincios Crestin
uumckk16 said:
People are stupid. That website is painfully ignorant. :rolleyes:

Plus, why would anyone want to be eternally pregnant?? That's just plain silly :p

And why would any man want to be eternally married to an eternally pregnant woman? The incessant moaning of that eternal last month (not without justification, before I get lynched by the females here) would be enough for me to consider such a fate hell.

James
 

ayani

member
JamesThePersian said:
And why would any man want to be eternally married to an eternally pregnant woman? The incessant moaning of that eternal last month (not without justification, before I get lynched by the females here) would be enough for me to consider such a fate hell.

James

*smirk* :D
 

yippityyak

Member
Danisty,

I am new here and I dont know what I believe, so please dont take my post as being arrogant.

What I want to know is then what exactly do Luciferians believe? And is it the same as what many people refer to as Satanism?
 

Doktormartini

小虎
To the LDS members...I have a quick question! I am reading a book called I Don't Have Enought Faith to be an Atheist where the two authors try and prove with evidence that Christianity is the only true religion. They point out that Mormonism is false because it is polytheistic...how is that so? I think they don't know what they are talking about, but why do some people think it is?


Ok on topic: As an atheist
-Yes, I do have morals and values.
-No, I'm not going to hell.
-Although I do believe in Evolution, not every Atheist does.
-No I don't hate Christianity.
 

yippityyak

Member
Thank you GenToo, much appreciated.

I do, however, have another question then.

What is Satanism then?

This question it not necessarily directed at you, but to anyone who can help me.

Thanks! ;)
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
kimber1 said:
man i can't believe i forgot the most important one as a Catholic:


yes, we actually ARE Christians.
I know you are. As a matter of fact, Catholics are among the most Christian of all the Christians I know. :yes:
 

IanAlmighty

Lurking Existentialist
yippityyak said:
What is Satanism then?
An atheistic religion, which serves as a way to easily release emotions as well as live without needless guilt or suffrence for those unworthy of pity so that we may focus our earthly efforts towards ourselves and those who deserve our love.
It is a bridge between Psychology and Religion, in other words.
There was no real Satanist religion before teh 20th century, contrary to prior beliefs.
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
GeneCosta said:
Ever get frustrated by a commonly held myth that just isn't true? Do you want to scream out, "Wiccans don't worship the Devil", or "Mormons don't have three hundred wives"? Then why not do it here?

Um...I dunno. Anyone got any juicy myths about Baha'is?

Maybe the idea that were either "syncretistic" or "New Age" (whatever that is).

(Speaking as an atheist)

Um, I used to be an atheist. These drove me nuts and still do:

- No, I don't deep down believe there is a God. Also, no, I'm not lying about that.

I'd add:

No, I'm not afraid of death. How can I possibly be afraid of a state of (non)being where I can't experience anything at all?

Yes, I do have a sense of morality.


Yup, those always drove me nuts.
 

ayani

member
yes, my faith allows me to worship alongside Buddhists, Muslims, Baha'is, Christians, and others.

no, this is not an impossibility, nor does it confuse me. it is ok for me to go to Mass, honor the Noble Eightfold Path, and greet my Muslim friends with "Allah hu Akbar". there is diversity within human striving for the spirit's goal- i feel that is something to be recognized and celebrated, not ignored or stepped around.
 

yippityyak

Member
IanAlmighty said:
An atheistic religion, which serves as a way to easily release emotions as well as live without needless guilt or suffrence for those unworthy of pity so that we may focus our earthly efforts towards ourselves and those who deserve our love.
It is a bridge between Psychology and Religion, in other words.
There was no real Satanist religion before teh 20th century, contrary to prior beliefs.

So basically we are looking at a religion that focuses on YOU, YOUR FAMILY and LOVED ONES. No one else?

Please, please please dont see me as being judgemental or arrogant, but I really dont know what it involves so I hope you dont mind me asking you a few questions?

Like, do you do Satanic Rituals such as sacrificing of animals?
And do you pray to Satan?
And what does a "meeting of Satanists" involve? (sorry I am not sure what it is called).
Do you use Witchcraft as well?
Do you drink blood?

I am very sorry, I am just very interested to know what is true and what is not about Satanism. And the questions I have asked are just some of the things that I would like answers to, so that I know what its all about!

I hope you are not offended in any way! And thank you for helping me answer some of my questions!
:)
 

Ðanisty

Well-Known Member
yippityyak said:
So basically we are looking at a religion that focuses on YOU, YOUR FAMILY and LOVED ONES. No one else?

Please, please please dont see me as being judgemental or arrogant, but I really dont know what it involves so I hope you dont mind me asking you a few questions?

Like, do you do Satanic Rituals such as sacrificing of animals?
And do you pray to Satan?
And what does a "meeting of Satanists" involve? (sorry I am not sure what it is called).
Do you use Witchcraft as well?
Do you drink blood?

I am very sorry, I am just very interested to know what is true and what is not about Satanism. And the questions I have asked are just some of the things that I would like answers to, so that I know what its all about!

I hope you are not offended in any way! And thank you for helping me answer some of my questions!
:)
Wow. I assume you've heard all these things about Satanists before? Satanists do not sacrifice animals or drink blood. A lot of Satanists are solitary practitioners and don't have meetings. I was always solitary so I have basically no idea what the meetings consist of. Occult practices vary among members. Most Satanists are atheists so you won't likely find them praying. Perhaps, if you have more questions, you would like to start a thread in the Satanism forum. I'd be happy to answer any questions and I'm sure IanAlmighty could help clear some things up too...just a thought.
 

IanAlmighty

Lurking Existentialist
Oh, never heard THOSE ones before. :D
yippityyak said:
So basically we are looking at a religion that focuses on YOU, YOUR FAMILY and LOVED ONES. No one else?
Satanism does not restrict humanitarianism, it simply says that you should always think of the sacrifices you make FIRST before you do unto others.
Please, please please dont see me as being judgemental or arrogant, but I really dont know what it involves so I hope you dont mind me asking you a few questions?

Like, do you do Satanic Rituals such as sacrificing of animals?
In Satanism, we are our own Gods. Sacrificing infers that you are giving something to a God. The only time an animal would be ritualistically sacrificed would be if the Animal were to be eaten out of necessity.
Satanism is a religion which repects so-called lower life-forms because we ourselves are no more than animals.

And do you pray to Satan?
I already stated that Satanism is an atheistic religion. Satan is an archetype which represents carnal desire and power. All usage of Gods and Devils in Satanism is purely for the purpose of psychodrama to invoke inner emotions.

And what does a "meeting of Satanists" involve? (sorry I am not sure what it is called).
Satanism is a very individualist religion. Group rituals are practiced mostly as a form of reaffirming faith in ourselves as Satanists in the same way other religions have group ceremonies to strengthen faith in their Gods.

Do you use Witchcraft as well?
Satanic Magic is divided into two major categories. Lesser Magic and Greater Magic, both rely entirely on psychology. Lesser Magic involves interaction, manipulation and seduction. Greater Magic is ritualistic and serves a dual purpose, the actual desired effect is only second priority to the effect on the caster which is the ridding of unneeded emotions that prevent happiness.

Do you drink blood?
Well, my grandmother is Norwegian and she sometimes cooks with pig's blood... but no. Blood tastes disgusting plain. Have you tried it? Ick!

I am very sorry, I am just very interested to know what is true and what is not about Satanism. And the questions I have asked are just some of the things that I would like answers to, so that I know what its all about!

I hope you are not offended in any way! And thank you for helping me answer some of my questions!
:)
No offense taken.
However all the needed information can be found in the books by Anton Lavey and Blanche Barton or on the Church of Satan's website, if one had any further interest.
 

Fluffy

A fool
Atheism
I do not hate nor even slightly dislike religion. In fact I like it a lot.
I do not hate nor even slightly dislike anyone let alone theists. I like quite a few of them indeed!
I have never said anything with the intention of ridiculing or belittling faith, religious belief or religious experience. I do not consider these things to be in any way inferior or lacking compared with anything else.
Atheism is not less rational than agnosticism.
 
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