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Name of God is God

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Well, if God is the only God, and His name is God, then no.
Here is my problem with this, the God I know has another Name, and it is Hebrew. And it is also my God's Name has been given in more than one way. LORD, LORD God, GOD, Lord GOD, Jehovah, Yahweh, YHWH,
Self-Existent, Who Is. the Uncaused Existence,
Uncaused Reality.
My question is, do you know your God whose Name is God? And if you where to explain to some how to know your God what would you instruct them?

God isn't a name. If you asked someone who god is, they'd say which... if you asked someone who Jehovah is, they'd get which god you're talking about and give you a more specific answer.

Self-existent, Who Is, and Uncaused Existence has no meaning; it's jargon. It's like asking who is a human being? I say its mortal, it gets hungry, and sometimes laughs for no particular reason. This tells you nothing about the human being (who it is, what it's name is, its values, and so forth).

Maybe more Jehovah's name is Jehovah?
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
God isn't a name. If you asked someone who god is, they'd say which.
The knowledge of my Church, that God is the Holy Name, has consequences.
1. All those, who call themselves gods are not Gods, but rather false gods - devils and idols.
They have stolen the person's name. It is the identity thief.

I repeat, that it is the knowledge of my Religion. In your religion, things are different, maybe.
 

37818

Active Member
God has many names, He is Love, He is Reason, He is Science. He is Judge, He is Police. He is King. He is Luck, He is Creativity (that is why He can miraculously create the world from nothing),
why? He is Spirit. The Spirit of all, which comes from God is the essence of God. God has Personality because persons come from God.

Argument not of reason, but of authority. The Pope means nothing in my Religion.

Can I get the God diploma? Is there an organization, which produces Gods?


Yes.
So if you were to explain how to know God?
God isn't a name. If you asked someone who god is, they'd say which... if you asked someone who Jehovah is, they'd get which god you're talking about and give you a more specific answer.

Self-existent, Who Is, and Uncaused Existence has no meaning; it's jargon. It's like asking who is a human being? I say its mortal, it gets hungry, and sometimes laughs for no particular reason. This tells you nothing about the human being (who it is, what it's name is, its values, and so forth).

Maybe more Jehovah's name is Jehovah?
The Name Jehovah is a transliteration of God's Name. Not a translation, such as Existant.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
The knowledge of my Church, that God is the Holy Name, has consequences.
1. All those, who call themselves gods are not Gods, but rather false gods - devils and idols.
They have stolen the person's name. It is the identity thief.

I repeat, that it is the knowledge of my Religion. In your religion, things are different, maybe.

Your church says that god being a holy name has consequences?

"...are not Gods" (there is more than one God?)

The word God is like the word "member." Everyone is a member on RF but our individual names (UnveiledArtist, Jehovah, etc) identify us as unique individuals. I can steal a member's name but it's not considered stealing by both of us using the word member.

However, I don't understand what you're trying to say nonetheless.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
So if you were to explain how to know God?

The Name Jehovah is a transliteration of God's Name. Not a translation, such as Existant.

God isn't a name, though. It's a title. I wouldn't go to you and refer to you as human being. There are thousands of human beings. But if I want to address you personally, I'd use your name.

God versus god doesn't make a difference. The word god whether God Zues or God Jehovah isn't owned by christianity. Best to use god's personal name not a title that has been used way before christians "took it over."
 

TiggerII

Active Member
The only personal Name of God, “Jehovah” in customary English form (or possibly “Yahweh/Yehowah” in ancient Hebrew form), has been removed in most “orthodox” translations from all (or nearly all) the 6000+ places it actually occurs in the ancient manuscripts of the Old Testament!

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia writes:
“5. ‘Jehovah’ - The name most distinctive of God as the God of Israel is Jehovah .... The meaning may with some confidence be inferred ... to be that of the simple future, yahweh, ‘he will be.’ It does not express causation, nor existence in a metaphysical sense, but the covenant promise of the Divine presence, both at the immediate time and in the Messianic age of the future.... It is the personal name of God.... Characteristic of the OT is its insistence on the possible knowledge of God as a person; and Jehovah is His name as a person. It is illogical, certainly, that the later Hebrews should have shrunk from its pronunciation, in view of the appropriateness of the name and of the OT insistence on the personality of God, who as a person has this name. [ASV] quite correctly adopts the transliteration ‘Jehovah’ to emphasize its significance and purpose as a personal name of God revealed.” - , p. 1266, Vol. 2, Eerdmans, 1984.

Also, the trinitarian Today’s Dictionary of the Bible (Bethany House, 1982) says:
“Jeho’vah, the special and significant name (not merely an appellative title such as Lord [or God]) by which God revealed himself .... The Hebrew name ‘Jehovah’ is generally translated [in most English Bibles] by the word ‘LORD’ printed in small capitals to distinguish it from the [honest] rendering of the Hebrew Adonai and the Greek Kurios, which are also rendered ‘Lord,’ but in the usual type.” - p. 330.

Trinitarian translator and scholar Jay P. Green writes in the Preface of his The Interlinear Bible:
“The only personal name of God that belongs to Him alone was rendered Jehovah or, in its shortened form, Jah. We preferred the transliteration JHWH (thus Jehovah) over YHWH (or Yahweh) because this is established English usage for Bible names beginning with this letter (e.g., Jacob and Joseph)." - p. v, Baker Book House, 1982.

“Jehovah denotes specifically the one true God, whose people the Jews were, and who made them the guardians of his truth. .... The substitution of the word 'Lord' ['LORD' in most Bibles today] is most unhappy, for it in no way represents the meaning of the sacred name.” - p. 220, Smith’s Bible Dictionary, Hendrickson Publ.

And the translators of the highly-praised American Standard Version (ASV) wrote about their translation:

“The change ... which substitutes ‘Jehovah’ for ‘LORD’ and ‘GOD’ (printed in small capitals) - is one which will be unwelcome to many, because of the frequency and familiarity of the terms displaced. But the American Revisers, after a careful consideration, were brought to the unanimous conviction that a Jewish superstition, which regarded the Divine Name as too sacred to be uttered, ought no longer to dominate in the English or any other version of the Old Testament.... This personal name, with its wealth of sacred associations, is now restored to the place in the sacred text to which it has an unquestionable claim.” - Preface, p. iv, American Standard Version, Thomas Nelson and Sons.

Commenting on this restoration of God's personal name in the ASV, The Presbyterian and Reformed Review said in 1902:

"We cannot understand how there can be any difference of opinion as to the rightness of this step. This is the Lord's personal name, by which He has elected to be known by His people: the loss suffered by transmuting it into His descriptive title ['LORD,' 'GOD'] seems to us immense. To be sure there are disputes as to the true form of the name, and nobody supposes that 'Jehovah' is that true form. But it has the value of the true form to the English reader; and it would be mere pedantry to substitute for it Yahwe or any other forms now used with more or less inaccuracy by scholastic writers. We account it no small gain for the English reader of the Old Testament that he will for the first time in this popular version meet statedly with 'Jehovah' and learn all that 'Jehovah' has been to and done for His people."

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“How long shall there be lies in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, and who prophesy the deceit of their own heart, who think to make my people forget my name by their dreams which they tell one another, even as their fathers forgot my name for Baal [‘Lord’]?” - Jer. 23:26-27, RSV.

“Our fathers have inherited nought but lies, .... they shall know that my name is Jehovah.” - Jer. 16:19,21, ASV.

“God said further to Moses, You tell the Israelites: JEHOVAH ... has sent me to you. This is My name forever and by this I am to be remembered through all generations.” - Ex. 3:15, MLB (Cf. NEB; LB; ASV; KJIIV; Darby; BRG; TLV; Young's ).

“Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, [O Jehovah - ASV] .... That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.” - Ps. 83:16, 18, KJV; Geneva; TLB; Youngs.

“HALLELUJAH [‘Praise Jehovah’]! O servants of Jehovah, praise his name.
Blessed is his name forever and forever.” - Ps. 113:1, 2 - Living Bible.

"Praise forever Jehovah-God, the God of Israel! He is the one and only God of wonders, surpassing every expectation." - Ps. 72:18, TPT.

"O Jehovah, don’t ever forget how these arrogant enemies, like fools, have mocked your name." -TPT, Ps. 74:18.
 
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Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
In English, we call God the God. Thus, His name is God.

Am I really wrong here?

"God" is a title...."God" is what he is, but he has a name that he gave to Moses in Exodus 3:13-15.
His name tells us who he is.

From the Tanakh....
"And Moses said to God, "Behold I come to the children of Israel, and I say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, 'What is His name?' what shall I say to them?" יגוַיֹּ֨אמֶר משֶׁ֜ה אֶל־הָֽאֱלֹהִ֗ים הִנֵּ֨ה אָֽנֹכִ֣י בָא֘ אֶל־בְּנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵל֒ וְאָֽמַרְתִּ֣י לָהֶ֔ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י אֲבֽוֹתֵיכֶ֖ם שְׁלָחַ֣נִי אֲלֵיכֶ֑ם וְאָֽמְרוּ־לִ֣י מַה־שְּׁמ֔וֹ מָ֥ה אֹמַ֖ר אֲלֵהֶֽם:

14 God said to Moses, "Ehyeh asher ehyeh (I will be what I will be)," and He said, "So shall you say to the children of Israel, 'Ehyeh (I will be) has sent me to you.'" ידוַיֹּ֤אמֶר אֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־משֶׁ֔ה אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה אֲשֶׁ֣ר אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה וַיֹּ֗אמֶר כֹּ֤ה תֹאמַר֙ לִבְנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה שְׁלָחַ֥נִי אֲלֵיכֶֽם:

15 And God said further to Moses, "So shall you say to the children of Israel, 'The Lord God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.' This is My name forever, and this is how I should be mentioned in every generation. טווַיֹּ֩אמֶר֩ ע֨וֹד אֱלֹהִ֜ים אֶל־משֶׁ֗ה כֹּ֣ה תֹאמַר֘ אֶל־בְּנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵל֒ יְהֹוָ֞ה אֱלֹהֵ֣י אֲבֹֽתֵיכֶ֗ם אֱלֹהֵ֨י אַבְרָהָ֜ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִצְחָ֛ק וֵֽאלֹהֵ֥י יַֽעֲקֹ֖ב שְׁלָחַ֣נִי אֲלֵיכֶ֑ם זֶה־שְּׁמִ֣י לְעֹלָ֔ם וְזֶ֥ה זִכְרִ֖י לְדֹ֥ר דֹּֽר:"


So you see "the Lord God's" name here is יְהֹוָ֞ה .....YHWH.....Yahweh...or Jehovah in English.

His name means "I Will Be What I Will Be".....or God will be whatever he needs to be in order to fulfill his purpose or to accomplish his will.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
In English, we call God the God. Thus, His name is God.
So, only English speaking people believe in God? The other believe in Gott, Dieu, Dios, Deus, ...?
The thing about a name is that it should be a universal and unique identifier.
(Difficulties to pronounce sometimes lead to shifts like München being called Munich, but that should be an exception for the speech impaired.)
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Well, if God is the only God, and His name is God, then no.
Here is my problem with this, the God I know has another Name, and it is Hebrew. And it is also my God's Name has been given in more than one way. LORD, LORD God, GOD, Lord GOD, Jehovah, Yahweh, YHWH,
Self-Existent, Who Is. the Uncaused Existence,
Uncaused Reality.
My question is, do you know your God whose Name is God? And if you where to explain to some how to know your God what would you instruct them?

Welcome to RF
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
How can I get this job?

Do you want the polytheistic version or the monotheistic version?

Loads of opportunity in the poly group but the mono group... im afraid the position has been filled but feel free to leave your resume with the receptionist
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
No man. God isn't a proper noun. The Christian God's actual name is YHWH and/or Jesus. I don't know if Holy Spirit is a title or a name.

Did you miss the "in English" part? "YHWH (Yahweh)" is Hebrew.

And I think "Jesus" is Mexican or something. ;)
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Did you miss the "in English" part? "YHWH (Yahweh)" is Hebrew.

And I think "Jesus" is Mexican or something. ;)

In English, YHWH is Jehovah because of a line of transliteration. In the Bible God isn't a proper noun. In Hebrew God is a translation of El or Elohim, not Gods name. The english translation of the Bible uses LORD where the tetragrammaton, Gods actual name, is being replaced. In Greek Gods Proper name is never used, so he is referred to as theos, translated to God in english, which isn't a proper name either.

I personally have never met a Jesus, but I have met many people named Joshua, which is pretty much the same name just transliterated or translated differently (I don't know which).
 
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