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"Neighbor boys peep at my scantily clad daughters. Should I have them cover up?"

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Although wearing short shorts and tank tops or bikini tops no doubt provoked the boys, I hardly think their reaction should be the basis for coming up with such a probability. But I understand where you're coming from: women should be subjugated to men, wear no braids or teach, but remain silent. So any parent letting their daughter wear clothes that provoked anyone is probably an unfit parent. :slap:

Because the odds are that the biggest reason the parents allow their daughters to walk around half naked is because they don't believe there is anything wrong with boys getting inflamed by looking at them. The offense that the wife takes to the request that her daughters cover up is most likely rooted in part with the fact she doesn't like "antiquated" Christian laws of sexuality being pushed on her.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Because the odds are that the biggest reason the parents allow their daughters to walk around half naked is because they don't believe there is anything wrong with boys getting inflamed by looking at them.
Excuse me for :rolleyes: at your hyperbole here.

The offense that the wife takes to the request that her daughters cover up is most likely rooted in part with the fact she doesn't like "antiquated" Christian laws of sexuality being pushed on her.
Most likely. And can you blame her? Who wants antiquated laws pushed on them?
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Absolutely not. I prefer it when people expose their prejudices and biases.

Spare me the "unbiased" routine. People that are completely unbiased don't exist in this world. EVERYBODY has an agenda. The only things we can choose is whether or not our agenda is righteous or evil, wise or foolish.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Spare me the "unbiased" routine. People that are completely unbiased don't exist in this world. EVERYBODY has an agenda. The only things we can choose is whether or not our agenda is righteous or evil, wise or foolish.
I must have hit a tender spot there. Good! ;)
In any case, I'm not faulting you for having biases, just appreciative that you've revealed some of yours.
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DreadFish

Cosmic Vagabond
There's not much for me to say about this but :D ...

I think the neighbor man should loosen up and accept that young boys will be young boys and will wanna look at young girls :rolleyes:

If he's got a problem with that, he should teach his sons his ideals and try to control them, not try to control someone else's kids...
 

kepha31

Active Member
Dear Prudence,
I am a married man with two wonderful teenage daughters living in a tranquil suburban neighborhood. A few months ago a nice couple, "Mike" and "Mary," moved in next door along with their eight children. The family is devoutly Christian. The children are home-schooled, well-behaved, and reserved; and the girls dress modestly. Our families have dined together and get along well. As part of their chores, my daughters do most of the yard work. It's hot here much of the year, and they typically wear short shorts and tank tops or bikini tops. The other day Mike said he wanted us to have a "serious" discussion and told me he caught his boys watching my girls from a bedroom window.

The boys are normal boys, their parents are imposing their values, which I agree with, but Christians need to be IN the world, not OF the world. Big difference.

and He asked if I could please have my girls not wear such revealing clothing if they're going to be outside, as he is trying to protect his kids from "certain elements of the world" and doesn't want them influenced by "overly sexualized displays."

That is not protecting them from the realities of a sex crazed society, it's hiding them.

When I told my wife and daughters, they were offended. Is it unreasonable to ask my daughters to cover up a bit?

It's not unreasonable to teach your wife the real power a woman has when she is modest.

I've had problems with difficult neighbors in the past and feel sometimes it is necessary to make small sacrifices in order to keep the peace. My wife thinks I should kindly tell Mike to shove it. What should I do?

Your girls could be wearing hajibs, and it won't stop the boys from looking. I would apologize to the neighbors for the scantily clad daughters tempting their boys (that is how they see it).
Inform your neighbors when your girls will be doing yardwork, and have them keep their boys away from the window, and apologize for any inconvenience this effort of coperation might impose.

If they won't keep their boys away from the window, then you won't keep your daughters from doing yardwork. I wouldn't say that, but it is important that you keep the peace with your neighbors. You never know when you may really need each other.

“Modesty is important because it is the fort that protects the castle, but it is also the frame that enhances the picture.”
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
How exactly is the natural beauty of the human body "immodest"? Nudity* isn't sexual by default, but regardless even sexuality is a natural, beautiful thing. I see no reason for anyone to make silly compromises/concessions just to satisfy repressed, insecure prudes.

*I know the OP doesn't deal with nudity, but it does deal with the notion that the flesh should be hidden as something shameful.
 
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Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
When I told my wife and daughters, they were offended. Is it unreasonable to ask my daughters to cover up a bit?

It's not unreasonable to teach your wife the real power a woman has when she is modest.

Which is...?
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I realize that I'm new here and a bit late for the main part of the discussion.

I agree with most of the others that "Mike" was wrong for going to his neighbor and asking him to cover up his daughters, at least from the way the situation is presented. Since all we have is "Neighborly Dad's" point of view, it makes me wonder if there's another side to the story here.

He probably should have told "Mike" to mind his own business and ended the matter right there. But then he goes to his wife and daughters to ask them what to do, and even his wife tells him to kindly tell "Mike" to shove it (I suppose there must be a kind way to say it). Yet, he still can't figure out to do, so he writes to "Prudence" (whoever that is).

And really, what are these boys peeping out the window for anyway? Back in my younger days, if it was my brother and me, we'd probably go out in our yard and show off or something. We'd try to get their attention or maybe even offer to help out with the yard work.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Sweet. How much modesty does it take to achieve that kinda power?

Darth Sidius = fully covered except for his face

Darth Vader = fully covered

And Darth Vader kills Darth Sidius.

Lesson: There is great power in modesty, even for men.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
:biglaugh: Wise you are, mmm, yeeeess.

I hope that you got the exquisite irony. Darth Sidius and Darth Vader were powerful because they were evil. And really the epitome of evil. :D
 
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