This sounds an awful lot like a single party dictatorship in lieu of a Republic.
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Neil Gorsuch Will Be The Next Supreme Court Justice
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Not all of us are that partisan. You and the rest like you keep blaming the Democrats or Obama for the actions taken by the Republicans and Trump.
They are the ones with the bad nominee. They are the ones compromising the impartiality of the highest court.
It is not the Democrats doing this. Maybe it's why Trump came in second in the election.
Tom
You have a low threshold for determining dictatorship status.
I say it's not a dictatorship until he can legally ban unflattering pix.
Russia bans 'extremist' picture of Vladimir Putin as a gay clown
As you have mentioned many times, Trump is just getting started. Give him time.
Tom
<snicker>
I'm not blaming them any more than the Pubs.
Remember that I don't think one party is better than the other.
If anyone calls this "false equivalency", their punishment...
To be Rosie O'Donnell's drawers for a week!
I agree with you -- what goes around comes around. One day (as is always the case in politics) the other side will be in control, and then the side that just invoked the "nuclear option" to suit their own purposes will scream "unfair!!!!" That would be (make that will be) a classic example of "hoist by their own petard."
What saddens me -- as a non-American living just to the north of y'all -- is that you have just instituted something that is very likely to be a permanent hurt on America. Justices of the Supreme Court are appointed for life...and for that reason it was always (tacitly) agreed that there should be at least some measure of agreement among all parties concerned. This was sensible as well as practical. And the Republicans just threw it away --- permanently.
Enjoy...
Sure, but from what I understand, they are attempting to circumvent a bipartisan process because they understand that is the only way they are willing to succeed. That makes me uneasy in any context.
You begin to understand!
Actually, the simple majority has been the standard in the past.
This isn't all that extreme a measure.
It only seems that way to the ones who keep losing.
Nuclear option - Wikipedia
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This is not the past. Trump just lost the election by millions and turned down the bipartisan nominee because a Democratic president nominated him.
With all the current and future investigations into his methods and entanglements looming a compromised court could be a huge liability to the country. And the Republicans know that.
Tom
If Trump lost the election, then the Democrats must be
incredibly lame sheep to allow him to get sworn in as Prez.
But I think you're in error on this. Trump won.
And under the laws & rules, he's getting his nominee.
Dems & Pubs both use the system to get what they want.
And they each have varying degrees of success.
And Obama? What about his nominee?
I agree that the Democrats are lame. But this thread is about the need to change the rules in order for the Republicans and Trump to get their guy on the bench. Unlike Garland.
Tom
Under the rules, Obama didn't.
I never said things were fair.
They just are what they are.
I agree there's no need.
But they did it anyway.
At least you are able to acknowledge the Irony and hypocrisy of the situation. Then again, that's politics.
I just stand back & watch....not rooting for or against Gorsuch.
But Trump could'a picked someone worse.
A silver lining thingie.
Let me get this straight....
You expected fair play from Republicans?
And you expected they wouldn't do whatever it takes to get their way?
Woe is caused by having unrealistic expectations.
I didn't expect such a good nominee from Trump.
So I'm feel'n fine.
esmith
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Those of you that want to blame the Republicans for what happened with Garland and the "nuclear option" that confirmed Gorsuch as the next Supreme Court judge should look in the mirror.
Why do I say this? Well lets look at the facts as they stand
Why did the Democrats lose control of the House?
Why did the Democrats lose control of the Senate?
Why did the Democrats lose the office of the President?
Well, it sure wasn't because of the Republicans. Yes the Republicans did take control of the House and the Senate and the Presidency but the blame has to lie right smack in the Democrats lap. It was their policies that led to their downfall. If you don't believe that then you are living in denial.
So take your lumps and either change or you will be lost in the political desert for many years to come.
Why do I say this? Well lets look at the facts as they stand
Why did the Democrats lose control of the House?
Why did the Democrats lose control of the Senate?
Why did the Democrats lose the office of the President?
Well, it sure wasn't because of the Republicans. Yes the Republicans did take control of the House and the Senate and the Presidency but the blame has to lie right smack in the Democrats lap. It was their policies that led to their downfall. If you don't believe that then you are living in denial.
So take your lumps and either change or you will be lost in the political desert for many years to come.