New discoveries of 'missing links.'

[Subduction Zone]

Since Aron doesn't have a schedule for these videos, we don't know when that will be. I'll post a link to an evolution thread when it comes up.

I have a thread on his series which I should update as well.

EDIT: No, I do not have a thread on that series here. It must be at one of my other haunts.

Thanks again for the video.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

What happens when creationists believe evolution is fact?

They stop being creationists, but they can still believe in their deity of choice.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

View attachment 35200

. ​

Is this from 2016? Did he just hear who was elected?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The only creationists I know of who believe in the process of evolution are Ken Ham and company who assert it took place among the animal kinds who got off the ark.

,

Oh yes. I forgot Ken and his lust for cash.

 

[firedragon]

They stop being creationists, but they can still believe in their deity of choice.

Does evolution produce evidence for beginning of life?

 

[Heyo]

Does evolution produce evidence for beginning of life?

No. That is not part of its scope. Look up "Abiogenesis" for the emergence of life.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

They are called "Old Earth Creationists". There are different levels of crazy among creationists. Creationists is often used for Young Earth Creationists (YEC), mostly followers of Ken Ham and the like. But you can also call yourself a creationist when you accept the ToE and think that a god created only the first life and/or evolutions is guided by divine influence. You are also a creationist when you accept all of science and only think that the universe was created by a god in the Big Bang.
I try to use YEC whenever I talk about Hamist creationists.

Theistic evolution, but there is variation about where the actions of a creator are applied even in those under that umbrella.

 

[firedragon]

No. That is not part of its scope. Look up "Abiogenesis" for the emergence of life.

Exactly. That's why there were many who were believing in creationism yet believing in evolutionary biology centuries before Darwin.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

No. We

Does evolution produce evidence for beginning of life?

No. We do not know how life originated or if this is the only place it originated.

Evolution explains the changes we see in populations of living things over time, the relationship of that life and it's diversity.

 

[firedragon]

No. We

No. We do not know how life originated or if this is the only place it originated.

Evolution explains the changes we see in populations of living things over time, the relationship of that life and it's diversity.

Exactly. That's why there were many who were believing in creationism yet believing in evolutionary biology centuries before Darwin

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Exactly. That's why there were many who were believing in creationism yet believing in evolutionary biology centuries before Darwin.

The theory is not a religious view, it is recognized based on the explanation for the evidence it provides, it's logic and predictive power.

There have been historical concepts of evolution, but nothing like Darwin proposed or what arose from the synthesis with genetics and population biology. Admittedly, what Darwin proposed was not a completely new idea in an historical context, but his revolutionary application of a mechanism that could be observed and tested changed everything.

 

[firedragon]

The theory is not a religious view, it is recognized based on the explanation for the evidence it provides, it's logic and predictive power.

There have been historical concepts of evolution, but nothing like Darwin proposed or what arose from the synthesis with genetics and population biology. Admittedly, what Darwin proposed was not a completely new idea in an historical context, but his revolutionary application of a mechanism that could be observed and tested changed everything.

Yep. Yet, creationists can follow evolution as many have done way before Darwin. And it continues.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Exactly. That's why there were many who were believing in creationism yet believing in evolutionary biology centuries before Darwin

Darwin also had available and supplied an exceptional and large volume of evidence to support the theory. Something that had also not been carried out prior to his work.

 

[firedragon]

Darwin also had available and supplied an exceptional and large volume of evidence to support the theory. Something that had also not been carried out prior to his work.

Yep. But still, creationists can follow evolution as many have done. Before and after Darwin.

Strange that somehow you see this statement as an attack on darwin.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Yep. Yet, creationists can follow evolution as many have done way before Darwin. And it continues.

It was evolution in a very broad sense of the term and some of the ideas were clearly way off. Giraffes do not have long necks because of stretching to reach ever higher leaves.

it would be difficult to know how many people actually supported some of these more ancient ideas, but by and large, the Friendswood suggest they were not widely held views outside of a few scholars.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Yep. But still, creationists can follow evolution as many have done. Before and after Darwin.

Strange that somehow you see this statement as an attack on darwin.

Strange that you would see what is not there.

 

[firedragon]

It was evolution in a very broad sense of the term and some of the ideas were clearly way off. Giraffes do not have long necks because of stretching to reach ever higher leaves.

it would be difficult to know how many people actually supported some of these more ancient ideas, but by and large, the Friendswood suggest they were not widely held views outside of a few scholars.

Brother. Yet. Creationists can follow evolution. They did, and are still doing so.

 

[firedragon]

Strange that you would see what is not there.

Then that's great.

Cheers.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Yep. But still, creationists can follow evolution as many have done. Before and after Darwin.

Strange that somehow you see this statement as an attack on darwin.

Reporting what Darwin did, the significance of it and the value implies the defense of an attack to you? You are going to have explain that.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Brother. Yet. Creationists can follow evolution. They did, and are still doing so.

Sister. No one says they can't. Accepting science is not the death of belief in religion. A Christian does not have to accept Genesis as a true and accurate description of life on Earth to still believe in God.