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[ADigitalArtist]

Translation: I don't like what the dictionary says and prefer to go with my own definitions.

Knock yourself out.

Actually I pointed out how that even though the dictionary is not a good source for this conversation, even it doesn't agree with your personal definition. Try working on that reading comprehension though. Or at least your strong cognitive dissonance.

 

[SkepticThinker]

See where atheism includes both?

No, because it doesn't.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The dictionary is not a good place to go for theological terms, just like it's not a good place to go for medical or scientific terms. Dictionary is lay usage, not theological or philosophical usage as it appears in education. The dictionary won't have other in-use terms like theological noncognitivism or ignostic, nor differentiate between implicit and explicit or weak or strong or gnostic and agnostic.

With that said I want to point out that even your dictionary differentiates between 'lack of belief' and 'strong disbelief,' and does not contain words or phrases like 'knowledge' because that would require a different term, as pointed out in the definition of agnostic.

You can have hold a position of disbelief and also the position of unknowable at the same time. There is no conflict between agnostic and atheism.

This ^^^

 

[Reggie Miller]

No, because it doesn't.

Yes, it does. It includes both those that lack a belief and those that have a strong disbelief.

You're just being silly now.

 

[Reggie Miller]

Actually I pointed out how that even though the dictionary is not a good source for this conversation, even it doesn't agree with your personal definition. Try working on that reading comprehension though. Or at least your strong cognitive dissonance.

You're wrong. The reason they make dictionaries is to keep guys like you from defining words the way you please instead of using them correctly according to their real meaning.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

You're wrong. The reason they make dictionaries is to keep guys like you from defining words the way you please instead of using them correctly according to their real meaning.

They make dictionaries for lay definitions in common usage. Once again, you won't find medical, scientific, engineering, theological or many other specific terminologies in it, as well as altered definitions from those technical usages, because the dictionary isn't a technical book. If you just go by the dictionary, you won't even know there is a difference between 'agnostic' and 'ignostic,' and yet 'ignostic' is a real term with meaning.

But once again, even the dictionary doesn't agree with you. It seperates belief and knowledge into two categories. A/theism deals with belief and a/gnostic deals with knowledge. Since they deal with two different things without overlap, they are not mutually exclusive.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yes, it does. It includes both those that lack a belief and those that have a strong disbelief.


You're just being silly now.

Both of which are beliefs, not claims to knowledge. As I said.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You're wrong. The reason they make dictionaries is to keep guys like you from defining words the way you please instead of using them correctly according to their real meaning.

So how would you feel if I were to tell you what a real Christian is?

 

[SkepticThinker]

You're wrong. The reason they make dictionaries is to keep guys like you from defining words the way you please instead of using them correctly according to their real meaning.

Both ADigitialArtist and I defined the terms that are set out in your dictionary definition and provided additional insight. Your definition reflects what we are telling you.

I think you are confused or something.

 

[Reggie Miller]

They make dictionaries for lay definitions in common usage. Once again, you won't find medical, scientific, engineering, theological or many other specific terminologies in it, as well as altered definitions from those technical usages, because the dictionary isn't a technical book. If you just go by the dictionary, you won't even know there is a difference between 'agnostic' and 'ignostic,' and yet 'ignostic' is a real term with meaning.

But once again, even the dictionary doesn't agree with you. It seperates belief and knowledge into two categories. A/theism deals with belief and a/gnostic deals with knowledge. Since they deal with two different things without overlap, they are not mutually exclusive.

Sorry to wound your pride but you've lost this argument. Have a good day.

 

[Reggie Miller]

Both ADigitialArtist and I defined the terms that are set out in your dictionary definition and provided additional insight.

I think you are confused or something.

Sorry to wound your pride but you've lost this argument. Have a good day.

 

[Reggie Miller]

Both of which are beliefs, not claims to knowledge. As I said.

Sorry to wound your pride but you've lost this argument. Have a good day.

 

[Reggie Miller]

So how would you feel if I were to tell you what a real Christian is?

I feel fine. You aren't going to change that no matter what you say.

 

[Jose Fly]

Hey Reggie, we're still waiting for you to support your accusation that the Lucy specimen contained baboon bones.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Sorry to wound your pride but you've lost this argument. Have a good day.

Maybe in bizarro world.

The definitions ADigitialARtist and I just explained to you are reflected in the definitions you provided. You have actually backed up what we've both said and somehow you aren't aware of it.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Sorry to wound your pride but you've lost this argument. Have a good day.

You haven't wounded anything, nor made your case. In fact, you've made my case for me.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Sorry to wound your pride but you've lost this argument. Have a good day.

Not at all, since even Christian and Jewish theologians as well as other philosophers have been using the term 'agnostic atheism' and 'agnostic theism' as part of their vernacular since before you were born. So the only one losing anything here is you, by refusing to broaden your horizons due to your hubris. A pity.

 

[Reggie Miller]

Hey Reggie, we're still waiting for you to support your accusation that the Lucy specimen contained baboon bones.

If you don't know that Lucy had a baboon bone incorrectly placed as part of her skeleton then that's your problem, Mr. (Mc)Fly.

 

[Jose Fly]

If you don't know that Lucy had a baboon bone incorrectly placed as part of her skeleton then that's your problem, Mr. (Mc)Fly.

I'll take that as a tacit admission that you were lying. You have absolutely no evidence to support your accusation, but you lack any sort of morals that would lead you to retract it and apologize.

I hope you appreciate just how much damage these sorts of behaviors do to your reputation around here.......and to your faith.

 

[Reggie Miller]

I'll take that as a tacit admission that you were lying. You have absolutely no evidence to support your accusation, but you lack any sort of morals that would lead you to retract it and apologize.

I hope you appreciate just how much damage these sorts of behaviors do to your reputation around here.......and to your faith.

Don't be stupid.

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