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[LuisDantas]

Neither are examples of good willing but financial investments and ethic. Neither establishes good will leads to success rather each shows financial investment can lead to success. You have used good will as a catch all term.

I take it that you disagree or disapprove?

In all honesty, I am not sure what you even mean to say.

 

[Underhill]

If it is, then I am somehow missing the telltale signs.


Doctrine. The Amish and Judaism are fairly developed religions, with a healthy dose of fraternity and moral values.

Islaamic doctrine apparently lacks that religious role, being instead based on the glorification of monotheism as source of tribal cohesion.

You don't think it has something to do with the wars and perceived unjust treatment of arabs? I mean as much as Jews like to complain, I think they have it vastly better than muslims in most parts of the world right now.

True enough, but that is mainly a reflection of how few and how atypical are the Muslims that exist in the USA.

The challenges in attaining effective mutual understanding with wider Islaam are no less real for that. If anything, they become a bit harder to acknowledge.

I don't see understanding as much of a challenge. The challenge is changing things.

 

[LuisDantas]

You don't think it has something to do with the wars and perceived unjust treatment of arabs? I mean as much as Jews like to complain, I think they have it vastly better than muslims in most parts of the world right now.

Hard to tell. Arab complaining is a tricky thing, capable of shifting from victimization to pride at a moment's notice.

Seeing how even they like to point out so often that their conflicts are largely internal, my provisional answer has to be that Arab populations are not known for being reasonable in their complaints, and we all must be sober and cautious in that respect.

I don't see understanding as much of a challenge. The challenge is changing things.

Understanding is a necessary first step for change. And it is very much a challenge even internally among Muslims, let alone among Muslims and kuffar.

 

[Underhill]

Hard to tell. Arab complaining is a tricky thing, capable of shifting from victimization to pride at a moment's notice.

Seeing how even they like to point out so often that their conflicts are largely internal, my provisional answer has to be that Arab populations are not known for being reasonable in their complaints, and we all must be sober and cautious in that respect.

That could be said of most of us.

Understanding is a necessary first step for change. And it is very much a challenge even internally among Muslims, let alone among Muslims and kuffar.

I don't buy it. I don't think understanding is all that difficult. Perhaps I am weird, but people are people. Once you understand their upbringing and their motives, it isn't all that complicated.

 

[LuisDantas]

That could be said of most of us.

I don't think so.

I don't buy it. I don't think understanding is all that difficult. Perhaps I am weird, but people are people. Once you understand their upbringing and their motives, it isn't all that complicated.

You don't seem to be disagreeing with me: understanding the people is the main challenge far as I am concerned.

 

[Shad]

I take it that you disagree or disapprove?

With the basic idea the books I can see the merit. It is the details that cause issues with me.

In all honesty, I am not sure what you even mean to say.

My point was that good will is not synonymous with charity and investments.