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New Pope..Pope means Spiritual Father

InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
If Christ isnt divided as Paul says, (1 Cor.1:13) then why wouldnt ALL Christians acknowledge The Pope as their Spiritual Father?
I would point out that not all christians had any say on who the pope is, rather merely a hundred and some (exact number varies) high ranking catholic clergy; AND that the pope himself must be a Catholic male that doesnt hold any 'heretical' views (as defined by the Catholic church of course) and those heresy's often tend to be things that the church splits over, creating non catholic christians.

There is good reason the pope is not considered the leader of christianity; why would it be when not one of the adherents to any other christian denomination can ever be pope - what authority can such a position ever have over them when it enshrines doctrinal differences to such an extent.

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Even Christianity Today acknowledges John Stokesley Catholic Bishop of London to be by far the most suspect individual in terms of whom may have arranged Phillips' betrayal of Tyndale; so rejecting the association without acknowledging the arguments does nothing to suggest neutrality in your reaction. I am not saying he was involved (and even if HE was involved that would not imply the church was involved) but to reject the association without acknowledging the merits AND limitations does you no favours.
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The Bible came from Rome, they invented it.
BZZZZZZT!

Thanks for playing, though.

The bible comes from the whole of Christian Tradition, which includes, not only the Church at Rome, but the Church at Constantinople, the Church at Antioch, the Church at Corinth, etc. The bible isn't a "western invention." In the least. The canon was set loooong before the Great Schism in 1054, when the Roman Church became a particular entity, distinguishable from the Eastern Church.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I don't understand the OP's intent.

The Pope is the leader of a specific Christian denomination. Why would a non-convert from another denomination acknowledge him as his Spiritual Father? That could easily happen, but it would also make the hypothetical person Catholic at least in intent.

A situation where all Christians acknowledge the Pope as their authority or Spiritual Father would be a situation of all Christians deciding to become Roman Catholics, wouldn't it?

Not technically impossible, but certainly not at all likely to happen any time soon.
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
I don't understand the OP's intent.

The Pope is the leader of a specific Christian denomination. Why would a non-convert from another denomination acknowledge him as his Spiritual Father? That could easily happen, but it would also make the hypothetical person Catholic at least in intent.

A situation where all Christians acknowledge the Pope as their authority or Spiritual Father would be a situation of all Christians deciding to become Roman Catholics, wouldn't it?

Not technically impossible, but certainly not at all likely to happen any time soon.

Exactly.
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
I don't understand the OP's intent.

The Pope is the leader of a specific Christian denomination. Why would a non-convert from another denomination acknowledge him as his Spiritual Father? That could easily happen, but it would also make the hypothetical person Catholic at least in intent.

A situation where all Christians acknowledge the Pope as their authority or Spiritual Father would be a situation of all Christians deciding to become Roman Catholics, wouldn't it?

Not technically impossible, but certainly not at all likely to happen any time soon.


Yeah yer probably correct. Just like ALL Americans dont acknowledge Pres Obama as President of America. Those who dont must be a different set of American.
 

jtartar

Well-Known Member
Even if they are protestant?

Freethinker44,
True Christians follow the Holy Scriptures, so they call no man their spiritual Father on earth, Matt 23:9, For one is your Father, He who is in heaven.
Just as important is : The pope claims to to be THE VICAR of CHRIST, which means that the pope is Jesus inside, with a body of flesh. I believe that; To all Christians this is blasphemy!!!
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Freethinker44,
True Christians follow the Holy Scriptures, so they call no man their spiritual Father on earth, Matt 23:9, For one is your Father, He who is in heaven.
Just as important is : The pope claims to to be THE VICAR of CHRIST, which means that the pope is Jesus inside, with a body of flesh. I believe that; To all Christians this is blasphemy!!!
That's not what it means. It means "one who acts on behalf of..." The pope acts on behalf of Jesus, taking on the mantle passed down by Peter, to feed Jesus' sheep.
 

WyattDerp

Active Member
I think it's actually meadows that feed sheep, which in turn feed shepherds, by "giving" them wool and meat and milk and whatnot. Even the "good shepherd" is at best still a shepherd, I never understood why that's supposed to be a good thing. Sounds like "merry butcher" to me. Sure better than a grumpy one, but still ^^
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I think it's actually meadows that feed sheep, which in turn feed shepherds, by "giving" them wool and meat and milk and whatnot. Even the "good shepherd" is at best still a shepherd, I never understood why that's supposed to be a good thing. Sounds like "merry butcher" to me. Sure better than a grumpy one, but still ^^
Well, Jesus as the Good Shepherd presents us with a view of Jesus that is a metaphor. And when asked, "What's a metaphor?" We answer: "To graze sheep in." So... in a roundabout way, it is a meadow that feeds sheep.:facepalm:
 

WyattDerp

Active Member
when asked, "What's a metaphor?" We answer: "To graze sheep in."

noun
1. a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”
2. something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.
3. something to graze sheep in.

Wow, you're right.. I had no idea!
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
noun
1. a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”
2. something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.
3. something to graze sheep in.

Wow, you're right.. I had no idea!

:sheep:
 
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