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No other Path to Unity but God.
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CG Didymus
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And which religion and God are you talking about? Lots of Christians believe that God is going to punish the wicked and reward the believers. And maybe Baha'is too?
They that are the followers of the one true God shall, the moment they depart out of this life, experience such joy and gladness as would be impossible to describe, while they that live in error shall be seized with such fear and trembling, and shall be filled with such consternation, as nothing can exceed. (Baha’u’llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha’u’llah, p. 171)
Wow, I guess that counts me out. Fear and trembling it is.
There is only One God CG.
All the Holy Books tell us the consequences of our choices, that is but one passage of hundreds, maybe thousands that give us information about the result of choices.
As I offered above, the quote you offered is telling us of consequences of choice, but there are passages that also tell us as to how we are to approach those choices and it is not via fear of punishment or by hope of reward.
The Judge is God, so who knows another's heart but God? We are only responsible for.our own.
Regards Tony
Nope. Not the one you follow. Not my type of God. So I'm destined for fear, despair, and all that great stuff, according to those who view the world in us versus them mentalities.
rational experiences
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If humans believe unity is with God.
Science named earth as human sciences products as the God.
A human seeing life destroyed and the inventions destroying heavens environment says unity is with God only.
As a human.
Means no inventive destructive earth sciences allowed
Pretty basic human commonsense self man scientists realisation as a human living on God earth.
Science named earth as human sciences products as the God.
A human seeing life destroyed and the inventions destroying heavens environment says unity is with God only.
As a human.
Means no inventive destructive earth sciences allowed
Pretty basic human commonsense self man scientists realisation as a human living on God earth.
I am not seeing it as an us verses them.
Is there types of God's?
I see it is our own self vs our own self.
Regards Tony
See post 162. Definitely us versus them, but you're free to deny it. I'm living in error, as he puts it.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
And there might be only one God, but there's lots of religion and religious people that have a different concept of God than the Baha'is. And that's part of the problem with the Baha'is focus on unity. You can say we are all one, but in our thoughts and beliefs we are all over the place. And Baha'is can say that others don't have to believe and follow the Baha'i Faith, but the plan for peace that Baha'is are saying will eventually be put in place, is from Baha'u'llah. That lesser peace thing is only the beginning. To get the world to the greater peace, it is necessary for people to believe in and follow what Baha'is claim is the truth from God for all people.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
So, don't make choices out fear or desire for reward. But there is a reward for those that make the right choice and something bad for those the make the wrong choice?
Yes, their choice. They can choose good or choose bad.
Really? Is that what he said to the rulers? "No obligation. You can have the most great peace now by believing in me and my plan that God gave me. Or you are free to reject me and go through wars and plagues and all sorts of turmoil. And finally get your act together enough to establish the lesser peace. And then wait centuries for the greater peace to get established. Your choice. You're under no obligation. God wouldn't want to twist your arm or anything."
One only has to consider that the vast majority of Baha'i also come from those conflicting belief systems, they will still maintain faith in their past religion, but will have also now embraced all the other faiths as well.
Regards Tony
Well they obviously saw there was no obligation and acted as they always had.
Those Messages also warned them what their rejection would result in, and they suffered the consequences.
Regards Tony
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Peace would be great, but does it mean the end to all the other religious beliefs? Of course, Baha'is say "no". But they really don't recognize the other concepts of who God is. So, if the Baha'i Faith is the truth... And their peace plan does get established and does actually work... Why would anybody still believe in any other religion? They are the truth from the one and only God. I know they say it's not true, but their beliefs eliminate all other religions from being true. That's a pretty big roadblock keeping people from getting behind them.
I'd say a massive roadblock. But only one of about 20 massive roadblocks.
I'll leave you two to it.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
O earth planet one true God.
The entity who released its spirits into space womb that formed immaculate earth heavens.
Immaculate coldest heavens keeps life balanced with ice stable returned end if each year saviour.
A scientific human only teaching.
Thought said with God. A human highest presence with God honour it
Science doesn't.
So science says if you don't honour natural holiness lots of various conditions life attacked sacrificed consciousness heavy metal changed occurs.
Human depravity highest conscious cause.
Sacrificed human life cell health gone its equal.
Two statuses together to give a conscious aware loving human a human answer for humans as humans by humans.
Scientific advice.
Innate aware
Natural history no science no theism.
Human acutely innately nature aware of food water healings for families assistance was first
Natural in everyone.
Science lying human egotism not natural in everyone.
Memory only. Indoctrinated taught. Religious science possessed teachings unrealistic by mind conditions.
Healer wise medical profession the teacher.
Said you must unify under one healer medical human observed teaching or else we will be destroyed.
The teaching.
Back then science was only re emerging was stopped from its rebuilt practice. Over the 1000 year evolution mind science regained its evil presence in our communities.
We are now inheriting the new 1000 year warning right at this moment.
Baha'i message ignored. Greed corrupted mind won.
The entity who released its spirits into space womb that formed immaculate earth heavens.
Immaculate coldest heavens keeps life balanced with ice stable returned end if each year saviour.
A scientific human only teaching.
Thought said with God. A human highest presence with God honour it
Science doesn't.
So science says if you don't honour natural holiness lots of various conditions life attacked sacrificed consciousness heavy metal changed occurs.
Human depravity highest conscious cause.
Sacrificed human life cell health gone its equal.
Two statuses together to give a conscious aware loving human a human answer for humans as humans by humans.
Scientific advice.
Innate aware
Natural history no science no theism.
Human acutely innately nature aware of food water healings for families assistance was first
Natural in everyone.
Science lying human egotism not natural in everyone.
Memory only. Indoctrinated taught. Religious science possessed teachings unrealistic by mind conditions.
Healer wise medical profession the teacher.
Said you must unify under one healer medical human observed teaching or else we will be destroyed.
The teaching.
Back then science was only re emerging was stopped from its rebuilt practice. Over the 1000 year evolution mind science regained its evil presence in our communities.
We are now inheriting the new 1000 year warning right at this moment.
Baha'i message ignored. Greed corrupted mind won.
Roadblocks that are not built in Baha'i belief's CG.
Personally I am a follower of all the Manifestations of God.
Regards Tony
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
The roadblock is that Baha'is believe they have a new message from God. And that their prophet is the promised return of everybody ever promised to return in any of the religions.