lukethethird
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Shouldn't we be getting nervous when people talk of unity?
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What if to attain unity you have to surrender your Baha'i perspective?
Not according to what you are saying. You have offered no hand to atheists, but instead challenge them in irrational means.That will not be required as unity will be inclusive of all perspectives.
So politics. Why haven't you said this before? The UN exists, and should be expanded, yes? What about Putin?Unity will be implemented and administered by a process adopted by a world legislative.
Not if your group is in power. Your tribe will be safe. The others?Shouldn't we be getting nervous when people talk of unity?
You mentioned Jesus while advocating for unity, and you know many religious and non-religious do not acknowledge that reference is meaningful.
So can you abandon your preferences to achieve unity?
Unity with what exactly?This is a follow on from the New Athiest Humanities Downfall?
It has been recorded.
"The well-being of mankind, its peace and security, are unattainable unless and until its unity is firmly established. This unity can never be achieved so long as the counsels which the Pen of the Most High hath revealed are suffered to pass unheeded."
(“Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh”, p. 286)
That is the topic of discussion.
So what are the councels that we will need to heed to find our unity?
Also, does this mean atheists and people of all the various faiths will not embrace those councels? (Personally I do not see that necessarily will be the case)
Regards Tony
The idea of world peace makes me want to vomit, especially if it involves worshiping a sky-daddy or believing in prophets. The human race will find unity in its eventual extinction, no gods required.
So politics. Why haven't you said this before? The UN exists, and should be expanded, yes? What about Putin?
Shouldn't we be getting nervous when people talk of unity?
It seems to me the only way to unity is to allow freedom of belief. When someone claims the only path is through belief in God, well, there goes unity. At least not before a lot of executions of non-believers. If you start shooting atheists in the street, you'll get unity. Then it will whatever the next outsider religious group that is in the crosshairs. Nazi Germany knew how to do unity and make it stick. They fought till the bitter end.The idea of world peace makes me want to vomit, especially if it involves worshiping a sky-daddy or believing in prophets. The human race will find unity in its eventual extinction, no gods required.
Unity with what exactly?
The councils on how achieve unity come from their prophet, Baha'u'llah. I know that the Baha'i Faith also has a peace plan that they published, "Promise of World Peace". So, I think from their perspective, it's everybody else that has to change. They're doing the right thing and doing what is needed to bring about peace and unity. Although, it might not seem that way sometimes.What if to attain unity you have to surrender your Baha'i perspective?
Ah, you're not reading my posts about the division your view and link causes. You are indifferent to those who believe differently, and your reference and your own thinking misses that critical point. That means it won't achieve what it aims to do. To unify you need to appeal to common traits, and belief in a god is not it.You have proved you do not read posts, nor consider the contents.
No other Path to Unity but God.
Regards Tony
It seems to me the only way to unity is to allow freedom of belief. When someone claims the only path is through belief in God, well, there goes unity. At least not before a lot of executions of non-believers. If you start shooting atheists in the street, you'll get unity. Then it will whatever the next outsider religious group that is in the crosshairs. Nazi Germany knew how to do unity and make it stick. They fought till the bitter end.
You avoided mentioning God. Why the change?Unity as one human race giving equal opportunity to all people, of all Nations.
Regards Tony
Unity as one human race giving equal opportunity to all people, of all Nations.
Regards Tony
Your approach IS militant, and I say that because you advocate only for religious people, and reject atheists. You also show your hand that you prefer those who believe in Jesus. Your view is highly prejudicial. That you don't seem aware of it would make you dangerous in a position of power.That is a very militant view of Unity.
Try considering it needs to be done in Love.
Wouldn't this Unity thing and some type of 'Counsel' annihilate the Individuality of people? From a faith-based point of view, I can't see it ever happening or even that it would be a good thing to happen. From a political standpoint, creating equal opportunity for all people may be a good thing.This is a follow on from the New Athiest Humanities Downfall?
It has been recorded.
"The well-being of mankind, its peace and security, are unattainable unless and until its unity is firmly established. This unity can never be achieved so long as the counsels which the Pen of the Most High hath revealed are suffered to pass unheeded."
(“Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh”, p. 286)
That is the topic of discussion.
So what are the councels that we will need to heed to find our unity?
Also, does this mean atheists and people of all the various faiths will not embrace those councels? (Personally I do not see that necessarily will be the case)
Regards Tony